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11-08-2009, 12:33 PM
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Fool Injection
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I'm suprised you got so nailed on a bike TBH 
You pushing about 120bhp on about 170KG of bike?
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Audison -> Morel : Rockford Fosgate : Rainbow
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"Big on road, sizeable on street, and ample in the avenue"
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11-08-2009, 02:05 PM
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Bacon Car!
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Well, 115. And 190k wet plus 80k of me.
Don't get me wrong, it's didn't do a grand national winner on me, but it wasn't neck and neck.
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So I have 0.44bhp/kg
GTR is 0.27bhp/kg
Based on 480hp/1730kgs
Just goes to show power to weight isn't the be all and end all.
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Last edited by Mallett's Mallet; 11-08-2009 at 02:11 PM.
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11-08-2009, 02:32 PM
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Regular Forum User
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Location: Glasgow
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quick cars, shame they will never make a manual 
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11-08-2009, 02:34 PM
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Fool Injection
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mallett's Mallet
Just goes to show power to weight isn't the be all and end all.
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Hmmmmmm... Iiiiinteresting 
<Strokes chin>
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VIA EPIA 1GHz In-Car PC -> M-Audio -> Orion -> Audiocontrol
Audison -> Morel : Rockford Fosgate : Rainbow
Ground Zero -> Digital Designs
"Big on road, sizeable on street, and ample in the avenue"
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11-08-2009, 02:47 PM
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Regular Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mallett's Mallet
Well, 115. And 190k wet plus 80k of me.
Don't get me wrong, it's didn't do a grand national winner on me, but it wasn't neck and neck.
edit:
So I have 0.44bhp/kg
GTR is 0.27bhp/kg
Based on 480hp/1730kgs
Just goes to show power to weight isn't the be all and end all.
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They have a hell of a lot of torque too, and all manner of systems to improve traction/get the power down.
Edit: You switch it to manual and use the flappy paddle gearbox. It's quicker than a normal box
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11-08-2009, 02:53 PM
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i thought the R35 changed gear quicker than someone could manually? even with the flappy paddal?
lots of Torque moves a heavy car, not so much the bhp figure.
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11-08-2009, 03:06 PM
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Bacon Car!
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Stick it up against a vtwin and I think it would be a different story.
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Yeah, the only problem is shouting out "Jocasta!" when you're on the vinegar strokes.
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11-08-2009, 03:32 PM
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Can't see it living with a Busa tbh.
EDIT - GT-R wouldn't stand a chance by the time it gets to 100 the Busa's getting close to 150.
Last edited by James M; 11-08-2009 at 03:35 PM.
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11-08-2009, 03:37 PM
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wang < eyelash
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mallett's Mallet
Well, 115. And 190k wet plus 80k of me.
Don't get me wrong, it's didn't do a grand national winner on me, but it wasn't neck and neck.
edit:
So I have 0.44bhp/kg
GTR is 0.27bhp/kg
Based on 480hp/1730kgs
Just goes to show power to weight isn't the be all and end all.
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Stuthemong's cerbera = 0.3bhp/Kg  Faaaakin' comon GTR's
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11-08-2009, 03:54 PM
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Bacon Car!
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Yes.
As your tyre smoke clears, the GT will clear the 1/4 mile 
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Yeah, the only problem is shouting out "Jocasta!" when you're on the vinegar strokes.
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11-08-2009, 04:15 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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i saw a red gtr the other day fly past me, put my foot down but it was gone. my p-plate td mondeo just didn't have what it takes! 
one day i'll have something that can keep up, if we have any roads left we can still play on by then!
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11-08-2009, 04:45 PM
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DC Audio - Sundown Audio
Join Date: Nov 2001
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aerodynamics. get your porky mallett gut on the tank and a double bubble on there and i think there would have been a different result. i appreciate you would then have a view of your yokes and not much else, but meh! 
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11-08-2009, 06:40 PM
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He'll get ya!
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Location: Hampshire
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Still haven't been in my dads yet, when he adds me to the insurance i'll bring it to a meet*
*He may not add me to the insurance
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11-08-2009, 07:58 PM
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Astra 1.8sri
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They're awesome cars, one cruised past me the other day on the motorway and as it's wheels rotated you got a perfect view of the massive brake calipers and discs. Such good looking cars.
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11-08-2009, 11:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devine_nathan
Yeah with a bike that small u didnt stand a chance
ive never managed to have a play with a a new r35 (really would like to)
had my fair share of playing with bikes (bikers seem to love cars that can keep up/overtake them) and 600cc's are not that much of an issue. R6 etc
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Get yourself down to the excel arena on a staurday night dude. Then you can play with plenty of cars including the new gtr. Last saturday I saw the GTR go head to head with a modded pulsar. The pulsar had it until just the end when the gtr took it. Both quick cars.
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12-08-2009, 06:24 AM
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Everything In Moderation
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Hertford
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Tim, I just think he caught you out. You should be hitting 60 in 4 seconds on your bike and 100 not much after. I can't believe they are that quick?
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12-08-2009, 06:26 AM
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Bacon Car!
Join Date: Feb 2002
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0-60 in 3.2 secs. According to Nissan specs
I wasn't pinned. Maybe he's had some work done, who knows....
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Yeah, the only problem is shouting out "Jocasta!" when you're on the vinegar strokes.
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12-08-2009, 07:48 AM
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Everything In Moderation
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Hertford
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Damn they are quick!
Bikes are still cooler
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12-08-2009, 08:07 AM
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Regular Forum User
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the new skylines are wikedly quick.
a cool vid available on the tinternet of the r35 racing a ducati 1098 round a circuit - skyline wins
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/R...098_205982.htm
a big cc bike should have it straight line though.
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12-08-2009, 09:56 AM
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mb quarts
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skline 4wd bike 1wd you would have to be good rider to have a supercar.a guy i know lent me is r34 for the week ..he went on holiday.. so i used it after about 2days of geting used to the car i had a race with a 900 blade he never got a look in untill one set of lights and a bit of trafic then he got me ..in one week i used £165 of fuel but what fun
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12-08-2009, 01:09 PM
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the amount of wheels driven doesnt have much to do with it?
RWD cars of the same power are often faster than 4WD vehicles as less power is lost in transmission.
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12-08-2009, 01:28 PM
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Greek member
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Not from a standing start, 4WD cars will have much better traction there.
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12-08-2009, 02:26 PM
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Sorry but that isnt totally true. if youve got enough power the front isnt even touching the ground. lots of drag cars have very skinny wheels at the front.
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12-08-2009, 02:39 PM
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Greek member
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I thought you might bring drag cars as an example. They are quite special though, so as NOT to break traction; with normal cars what I wrote above stands. The problem in (most) 2WD cars is that traction is broken/lost when accelerating in full throttle (from a standstill), thus you lose time spinning the tyres. This rarely happens in 4WD, and if it does, we're talking about massive power figures. Or completely bald tyres. 
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12-08-2009, 03:10 PM
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what do you class as massive? any street car on street legal tyres with enough power will spin up on full throttle. ive driven a 800bhp skyline, it spins fourth in the dry on all 4 wheels. lots of lesser power skylines spin up 4 wheels on launch, its all about launching revs.
its all setup dependant. however if the setups were the same 4wd will launch (not accelerate) quicker than a RWD.
when i mean same i mean exactly same tyre sizes/weight ratio/everything.
ive seen a lot of supras launch quicker than GTR skylines.
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