n_olympios
11-06-2004, 11:50 AM
First of all, ain't she a beauty? :D
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_172_full.jpg
Well guys, here's the situation. We need to build a sub box for the beast with these 5 main concerns:
a) size
b) Stealth character
c) size
d) SQ virtues
e) size.
I know it's been done before, but as one specific TA member told me earlier today: "stick it in TA, you can never have too much info" :cool:
Disclaimer: the work wasn't done by me alone, it was done with help and guidance of my professional installer (and of course previous relevant TA threads :D ). If you want more info regarding materials and stuff, let me know and I'll ask him. :)
So here it goes:
Ingredients:
- One car (well doh)
- Masking tape, 3 rolls will do, preferably of the wide variety.
- 6-8 cheap brushes (the cheaper the better, they're expendable)
- 3-4 Garbage bags, large ones
- Polyester mix and catalyst (please someone more knowledgeable fill in missing info re: codes etc)
- Fibreglass wool, 2mm and 5mm
- 16mm MDF (or whatever there is available near that dimension, the bigger the better for rigidity, but also more weighty)
- 1-2 kg of sawdust (you'll see why later)
- polyester stucco / mastic / putty / whatever you guys call it. :rolleyes:
- Car Carpet to match your boot carpet. (or slightly not :( )
Tools:
- Jigsaw
- Screwdrivers (for step 1)
- 5-6 pairs of surgical gloves
- Pair of old trousers, t-shirt and old shoes
- Silicone bars and heat gun
Step 1:
Remove all unnecessary objects from the space around the location of the sub box and clean carpets etc (remove all nuts and bolts and holders as well.)
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_128.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_128_full.jpg)
Step 2:
Cover the space with masking tape.
(Tip: start from the bottom and continue upwards, that way there won't be a leak through the tape layers)
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_131.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_131_full.jpg)
Step 3:
Use garbage bags to keep the rest of the boot space clean and fg-free. ;)
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_135.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_135_full.jpg)
Step 4:
Cut the FG wool in small pieces of around 20*20cm, or 20*10 if you prefer (sorry, forgot to get pic, although they can be seen in the bottom right corner of the next pic)
Step 5:
Get a brush and mix some polyester with the catalyst, then place the 2mm fg wool (piece by piece) on the masking tape and start brushing it with the polyester mix to stay in place. The polyester works like a glue due to the moisture.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_139.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_139_full.jpg)
Step 6:
After you've covered the whole space with one layer of FG, wait for an hour or 10 (depending on how long the polyster mix you have takes to get stiff), then repeat procedure with another 2mm layer, and then another (well, it's not doing any harm ;) )
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_140.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_140_full.jpg) http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_141.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_141_full.jpg)
Step 7:
Wait until the FG is totally set, then carefully prise the thing off the car and out onto a bench or something. It should now be totally rigid and not warp at all.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_142.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_142_full.jpg) http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_143.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_143_full.jpg)
Step 8:
Take a break for a snack or beer. (no pic of that either) :D
Step 9:
Remove all the remaining tape and bags from the car, and test fit the FG construct again. Measure the front side (the one against the rear seat's back) so you can cut the MDF side piece.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_144.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_144_full.jpg)
Step 10:
Using another layer (or 2) of 2mm FG wool, glue the MDF side piece in place. Make sure it's parallel to the rear seat and doesn't leave any gaps.
Then, cut the extra FG by using the jigsaw. Make sure you don't cut it too much though. (You can see it cut at the side near the bumper)
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_145.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_144_full.jpg)
Step 11:
Wait until the last layer of FG is set, and then lay the box down and fill it with material of your own choice (I used water) to measure the internal space. For this box we only needed 17 litres. Make sure you keep the box horizontal. Draw marks with a waterproof marker around the box (internal side) where the water surface is, that's where the baffle will go.
Also, keep in mind that if you glue more FG layers in there, then you'll probably need to leave some more depth to keep the internal space at required volume. In that case, depending on your build, just add a cm to that mark you just made.
Step 12:
Put some more FG layers in there, just to make sure it becomes as rigid as it can. I put 5 layers in total, 2 layers of 2mm wool and 3 layers of 5mm wool. Of course when dipped into polyester the wool becomes smaller in total height.
Step 13:
Measure the front baffle (three times) and cut it from 16-18mm MDF. It would be wise to cut it a little bigger, because that mistake is easily fixed, the opposite isn't.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_146.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_144_full.jpg)
Step 14:
Swear lots for making the baffle too large and cut it again and again until it does fit. :mad:
(continued in next post)
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_172_full.jpg
Well guys, here's the situation. We need to build a sub box for the beast with these 5 main concerns:
a) size
b) Stealth character
c) size
d) SQ virtues
e) size.
I know it's been done before, but as one specific TA member told me earlier today: "stick it in TA, you can never have too much info" :cool:
Disclaimer: the work wasn't done by me alone, it was done with help and guidance of my professional installer (and of course previous relevant TA threads :D ). If you want more info regarding materials and stuff, let me know and I'll ask him. :)
So here it goes:
Ingredients:
- One car (well doh)
- Masking tape, 3 rolls will do, preferably of the wide variety.
- 6-8 cheap brushes (the cheaper the better, they're expendable)
- 3-4 Garbage bags, large ones
- Polyester mix and catalyst (please someone more knowledgeable fill in missing info re: codes etc)
- Fibreglass wool, 2mm and 5mm
- 16mm MDF (or whatever there is available near that dimension, the bigger the better for rigidity, but also more weighty)
- 1-2 kg of sawdust (you'll see why later)
- polyester stucco / mastic / putty / whatever you guys call it. :rolleyes:
- Car Carpet to match your boot carpet. (or slightly not :( )
Tools:
- Jigsaw
- Screwdrivers (for step 1)
- 5-6 pairs of surgical gloves
- Pair of old trousers, t-shirt and old shoes
- Silicone bars and heat gun
Step 1:
Remove all unnecessary objects from the space around the location of the sub box and clean carpets etc (remove all nuts and bolts and holders as well.)
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_128.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_128_full.jpg)
Step 2:
Cover the space with masking tape.
(Tip: start from the bottom and continue upwards, that way there won't be a leak through the tape layers)
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_131.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_131_full.jpg)
Step 3:
Use garbage bags to keep the rest of the boot space clean and fg-free. ;)
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_135.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_135_full.jpg)
Step 4:
Cut the FG wool in small pieces of around 20*20cm, or 20*10 if you prefer (sorry, forgot to get pic, although they can be seen in the bottom right corner of the next pic)
Step 5:
Get a brush and mix some polyester with the catalyst, then place the 2mm fg wool (piece by piece) on the masking tape and start brushing it with the polyester mix to stay in place. The polyester works like a glue due to the moisture.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_139.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_139_full.jpg)
Step 6:
After you've covered the whole space with one layer of FG, wait for an hour or 10 (depending on how long the polyster mix you have takes to get stiff), then repeat procedure with another 2mm layer, and then another (well, it's not doing any harm ;) )
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_140.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_140_full.jpg) http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_141.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_141_full.jpg)
Step 7:
Wait until the FG is totally set, then carefully prise the thing off the car and out onto a bench or something. It should now be totally rigid and not warp at all.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_142.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_142_full.jpg) http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_143.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_143_full.jpg)
Step 8:
Take a break for a snack or beer. (no pic of that either) :D
Step 9:
Remove all the remaining tape and bags from the car, and test fit the FG construct again. Measure the front side (the one against the rear seat's back) so you can cut the MDF side piece.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_144.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_144_full.jpg)
Step 10:
Using another layer (or 2) of 2mm FG wool, glue the MDF side piece in place. Make sure it's parallel to the rear seat and doesn't leave any gaps.
Then, cut the extra FG by using the jigsaw. Make sure you don't cut it too much though. (You can see it cut at the side near the bumper)
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_145.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_144_full.jpg)
Step 11:
Wait until the last layer of FG is set, and then lay the box down and fill it with material of your own choice (I used water) to measure the internal space. For this box we only needed 17 litres. Make sure you keep the box horizontal. Draw marks with a waterproof marker around the box (internal side) where the water surface is, that's where the baffle will go.
Also, keep in mind that if you glue more FG layers in there, then you'll probably need to leave some more depth to keep the internal space at required volume. In that case, depending on your build, just add a cm to that mark you just made.
Step 12:
Put some more FG layers in there, just to make sure it becomes as rigid as it can. I put 5 layers in total, 2 layers of 2mm wool and 3 layers of 5mm wool. Of course when dipped into polyester the wool becomes smaller in total height.
Step 13:
Measure the front baffle (three times) and cut it from 16-18mm MDF. It would be wise to cut it a little bigger, because that mistake is easily fixed, the opposite isn't.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_146.jpg (http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/362000-362999/362196_144_full.jpg)
Step 14:
Swear lots for making the baffle too large and cut it again and again until it does fit. :mad:
(continued in next post)