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Mike@CAD
29-01-2004, 06:32 PM
Ok, we are looking at DD Audio in more detail at the moment and are aware that the main stumbling block is not performance or quality but UK pricing.

If we were able to get the pricing closer the US pricing ie. (the price if you imported one with tax and VAT your self) would this lift interest?

Here are some examples of our possible new prices:

DD9915b - £869
DD9912b - £829
DD9515e - £519
DD9512e - £499
DD9510e - £469
DD3515c - £319
DD3512c - £289
DD3510c - £259

Feedback welcomed :)

Mike

Blade
29-01-2004, 06:34 PM
I think those prices look excellent Mike... Know there have been some issues in the past, but it would be great to have them available again...

-SuperiorSounds-
29-01-2004, 06:51 PM
Mike, if I may...

Lets take the DD9515 for example. Weighs abourt 49lbs or so. Big heavy sub.

DDUS has the price as $629.
However, if you own a DD product already/know somebody at DD in Oklahoma, the you can get a discount. IIRC for DD users its like 20%. So that brings our $629 down by 20% or so to $503.
Insured shipping via USPS would be $160 for 49lbs.
VAT+4.5% customs.
So $503, added to $160, add all VAT+4.5% customs duty = $810.

$810 at current, $hitty exchange rate as offered by PayPal is 450 GBP (you suggest 519 GBP, a difference of 69 squid).

im my humble opinion maybe prices should come down a further 10% of what you list???

i very much agree that interest in DD (AQ, ahem :D ) should be lifted as they are true super-subs, especially now that they have the 1000, 2500 and 9100 series firmly on track. :)

any thoughts on my above example?

puggie
29-01-2004, 06:55 PM
The man is trying to run a business and make a living, I think the pricing is pretty good tbh. you are buying aftersales service from CAD as well as just the sub. Sure if you want to grey import you can do most things cheaper but the point of UK distribution is to supply a product with aftersales service and assistance, not just dump a sub on your doorstep and hope it works.

Northern_Sounds
29-01-2004, 06:59 PM
I'd rather pay the extra £70 and let CAD do all the work and have the hassle.

The only thing that would stop me buying DD is the price.

-SuperiorSounds-
29-01-2004, 07:13 PM
well, mike said opinions are welcome so i thought id do some leg work with a working example and what in effect is their topline woofer.

id personally say that the extra 10% should be available to regular forum members :)

samhain
29-01-2004, 07:15 PM
well, mike said opinions are welcome so i thought id do some leg work with a working example and what in effect is their topline woofer.

id personally say that the extra 10% should be available to regular forum members :)

Nice work, the prices are good Guru.

Mike@CAD
29-01-2004, 07:21 PM
Andrew you may notice that i actually said "If we were able to get the pricing closer the US pricing" not exactly the same as if you grey imported after having received a discount in the USA?!

FYI the official DD European prices for the DD9515 are as follows:

MSRP - €1150 (£787)
Discounted - €999 (£684)

So our target price of £519 looks pretty reasonable i think?

As already stated remember we deal with the shipping, backup, and save you the trouble of customs, tax and US shipping.

If everybody still gripes or moans about the US being cheaper i will leave the idea and continue not to stock ;)

Regards
Mike

zimsoundz
29-01-2004, 07:22 PM
Prices look good :) It's top stuff as well...

Mike@CAD
29-01-2004, 07:26 PM
Prices look good :) It's top stuff as well...

You just hunt down these DD posts don't you ;)

Dave B
29-01-2004, 07:33 PM
And for my 2p
Also add comunications costs, time and agro, plus full UK waranty?
And the ease of ordering

Call CAD,
Dave can I have a ******, yes no problem can I have name, address, contact details card number etc
2mins later thank you, will be with you asap.

Not so painful.

Just my thoughts.....;)

-SuperiorSounds-
29-01-2004, 07:34 PM
Andrew you may notice that i actually said "If we were able to get the pricing closer the US pricing" not exactly the same as if you grey imported after having received a discount in the USA?!

well, i personally interpreted that as 'US pricing' as in had you been able to get it in direct from the US which would be an import in any case, regardless of club DD discounts? :confused:

if we take the price as it stands at DDAudio US which is $629 and add $160 and add VAT & customs then it equates to 520ish GBP at current exchange rates which is more or less what you mention anyway, so mnaybe if you take a look at it in that light, the 519 GBP for a 9515 as you suggest is pretty decent and more or less in line with a direct import. its only when you take into consideration club DD pricing that the difference of another 70 GBP appears.

in any case, as i have said before, to all others and the general public, the new prices you posted are v.reasonable.

Mike@CAD
29-01-2004, 07:45 PM
The main difference would be our units are imported via DD Europe and distributed by CAD as an approved dealer, therefore giving you a full UK warranty.

If you buy from the States you have a warranty with the original dealer and can you imagine the return carriage on a 49lbs subwoofer!

Mike

Blade
29-01-2004, 07:52 PM
I think your bang on... And these shoudl definitely be available... Funky bits of kit that they are :)

puggie
29-01-2004, 07:53 PM
Andrew J your calculations are also based on an exchange rate that will not be around for ever, it's pretty favourable for us at the moment but anyone starting to import has got to look at fixing prices with the knowledge that if the exchange rates shift and it costs more £££s then you won't be favourable if you put your prices up. Your average consumer is not going to be happy to be told 'yes it was £520 last week but due to international exchange rates aI want to charge you £560 today and It might be £530 or even £600 next week'!

Just a thought.

zimsoundz
29-01-2004, 08:03 PM
i'll be quite happy to test a few to make sure they are up to scratch :P

VD
29-01-2004, 08:18 PM
but they are cheaper in the us :p

joking aside they are good woofers and can take the abuse.

Migroo
29-01-2004, 09:18 PM
CAD: You might want to bear in mind how many of these you want to sell in order to make it worthwhile to yourselves.

I dont know this for a fact, but I would guess that most of your high end sales (of which DD comes under) come from this forum, or are directly related? I may be wrong.. but its something to think about as there are already plenty of high-end subs already 'established' on the forum - if you need to sell a lot of DD to make this worthwhile, then you might have a problem on your hands.

Only you can figure the answer out :D

Of course as a user its always nice to see more kit available, but its down to you.

-SuperiorSounds-
29-01-2004, 09:44 PM
Andrew J your calculations are also based on an exchange rate that will not be around for ever

analysts at Bloomberg suggested to me around 3 weeks ago that the 1GBP = $1.8 is going to stay that way for quite a bit. in short, its a good time to buy ;)

Cbr
29-01-2004, 10:03 PM
I'd rather pay the extra £70 and let CAD do all the work and have the hassle.




^^^^^ that just about sums up my thoughts too,

It can only be a good thing Mike, I'm sure Zim will buy most of the stock anyway to fuel his DD addiction :D

Mike@CAD
29-01-2004, 10:24 PM
CAD: You might want to bear in mind how many of these you want to sell in order to make it worthwhile to yourselves... there are already plenty of high-end subs already 'established' on the forum.

Well plenty of high end subs are talked about on the forum, i would say not as many are sold as you may think ;)

We have plenty of sales history to help us make decisions :)

Mike

bassmechanic
29-01-2004, 10:25 PM
excellent work mike!!!

might stem the flow of RE stuff :p :lol:

VD
29-01-2004, 10:59 PM
hmm.

not too sure about that last comment - they are a different market.

RE are more street subs - DD are purely SPL monsters really.

zimsoundz
29-01-2004, 11:41 PM
excellent work mike!!!

might stem the flow of RE stuff :p :lol:
as much as i'd love to see more DD stuff out, it'll be difficult due to being higher priced than most :( ... but good luck :cool: i dunno what i'll buy next :clown:

a wall of DD9915s :love: :love: :love: <come back down to earth lol> oh well, keep on dreaming :neutral:

Mega Heavy Bass
30-01-2004, 12:11 AM
Excellent prices as usual Mike.

If I blow my DD3512s then you`re the guys I`m going to speak too.

I`ve got no problems with buying DD stuff at that price. And I always buy from you guys anyway.

Thank goodness someone has seen sense to try and get the prices down.

Hopefully we`ll see a few more DD systems around.

I`m fed up with all this RE this & RE that :p Only joking guys. ;)
I`ll be getting a new RE 8" myself, soon. :)

Tigz
30-01-2004, 12:15 AM
Sounds like a good price to me, just wish I had the cash to take one off your hands.
One day though, one day.

Blade
30-01-2004, 12:22 AM
DD are purely SPL monsters really.

I'm sure a lot of people would disagree with that comment Dave!

Tigz
30-01-2004, 12:28 AM
I lad I know who designed my box and port for me runs two 10"s in his Lupo, (around 145db I think) and the bass they produce is fantastic. Very tight and very powerful.
I wouldnt say there pure spl

mick@CDT UK
31-01-2004, 03:14 AM
We try very hard to get our prices in line with the USA CL61 are $299 and £199 in the UK @ 1.5to the pound thats the same with out you having to pay shipping duty or vat but with full warrenty but its all about numbers we sell tons of CL range but less HD and even Less Eurosport ( though ES 62 are out again) and our prices follow that line. Big bad subs cost loads to ship and have to come by boat to help with the cost so lead times are long and most of this type of sub are to be thrashed so I would say the prices look good but I would not touch this type of product and let the hard core sort their own deals out.
Thankyou please ;)

vegabass
31-01-2004, 04:49 AM
I'd say those prices were spot on.. after all, most people won't be able to get a discount, and the fact that (as stated) you get a full UK warranty and also don't have the worries of something happening during transit from overseas, and the easiness compared to importing make those prices seem very competitive to me. :)

Cbr
20-03-2004, 07:38 PM
Any news on these new prices Mike???

Blinkybill
21-03-2004, 08:49 PM
OOHHHHH **** i just ordered my second 3512 at £400 !!!!!!!

Can i cancel and wait till the prices are dropped ?

majsvibe
22-03-2004, 09:40 AM
Mmmmmmm 3512 would`nt mine a few hundred of those in my car :love: KEEP DREAMING MAJ :err:

majsvibe
22-03-2004, 09:42 AM
where do you order these subwwofers from anyway??? i was thinking of buying a 12" idmax sub? any idea where to get this from?

whats the power rating for the idmax 12`s anyway anyone know??

Kaedyn
22-03-2004, 10:21 AM
contact TB3 (Matt), he's the dustributer of for ID in the UK.

majsvibe
22-03-2004, 10:30 AM
ok brilliant thankz mate :cheese:

Mike@CAD
22-03-2004, 06:10 PM
Any news on these new prices Mike???

Not enough uptake on those prices to make bulk importing viable. We will have to stay at the current levels as long as DD is imported in limited numbers.

(so dont panic Blinky, ps you have email ;) )

Cheers
Mike

Blinkybill
22-03-2004, 09:40 PM
Cheers Guru ;)

Cbr
22-03-2004, 10:47 PM
Not enough uptake on those prices to make bulk importing viable. We will have to stay at the current levels as long as DD is imported in limited numbers.

Cheers
Mike

poop, It was worth asking tho. :cry:

loudlupo
23-03-2004, 11:03 AM
As tigz mentioned, im running a pair of 3510's and i reckon it might be upgrade time this year. I wanna stay with dd as they are fantastic subs but the price hike, since i bought mine over 2 years ago, has put me off.