ok guys this is probably a silly question to most, but which of the followin subs would u say has the best streetbass values, i.e louder, lower etc..

jl13w7
xxx15
dd3515
dd9515
orionH2 15?

Yes, it's a silly question :)

None of those will have any trouble getting right down to the bottom octave in the right box, they should all be tight and articulate (again in the right box) and they would all be damn loud. Again, in the right box.

Spot the link? It's all about the *box* :) Unfortunately you can't normally get low, loud and tight all at once very easily but you can normally get close enough.

HB (feeling a bit dirty - this is an SPL Forum! :chunks: :D)

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also streetbass :D

All those subs are super! Great SQ and are VERY loud, though wouldnt 2 SE15's be better for streetbass than say a XXX15? correct me if im wrong ;)

yeah ur right but then might aswell get 2xxx15's:)

DD3515s would be better for street bass than DD9515s, although I bet the 13w7s sound awesome :)

the IDMAX would be a good contender too :) goes very low, and very loud on only a small amount of power

the 2 main ingredients of streetbass

yeah ur right but then might aswell get 2xxx15's:)

But that would cost more than twice the price :D

As Tej says, efficiency plays a huge part in streetbass.

I have no idea which would be most efficient sub out of that list, but I am very happy with my XXX :)

Ams van - 160+db off three XXX's and still sounds good now thats street bass

the DD 3515's would probably be most effiecient on there. although i am unaware of the efficiency of the H2....

Andrew.

the IDMAX has a 93db efficiency

DD3515s would be better for street bass than DD9515s

Why do you say that fella?

the IDMAX would be a good contender too :) goes very low, and very loud on only a small amount of power

the 2 main ingredients of streetbass

Fingers crossed, if my car repairs are finished tomorrow, by the end of next week my install should be finished and run-in....full report on the idmax vented to come m8. :)

Why do you say that fella?

I think Geoff is saying that the 35 series are more designed with music in mind, and take less to get going, where the 95s are built with huge loads in mind, take more to move and are basically a big amp sub.

Ben

Thanks for clearing that up Ben :)

Why do you say that fella?

thats what i was also thinking - why geoff? enlighten us why dont u as you have owned both.

EDIT: i think it spossibly due to the fact that a 9515 gets going real good with 2k+, while a 35 does very well with about half of that power.

95 is more efficient though :confused:

hells going on :D

I would say the Max is the most efficient out of that lot...

Bibby, you going to port yours? What enclosure, and what power you going to give it :)

suppose every1 has their own conclusions

I would say the Max is the most efficient out of that lot...

Bibby, you going to port yours? What enclosure, and what power you going to give it :)

1KW off a Fusion Jonah Lomu Matt.

The enclosure I've designed & built is 2.6cu'ft tuned to 28Hz. Wether I'll settle for that or not is another matter I guess. Time will tell. :)

hehe, I can't wait to hear how you get on :)

It'll be interesting to see what results you get Bibby... During the IDMAX UK Tour, i'll be running the same 1.4Kw amp, but trying the MAX sealed :)

It should be interesting, yes.

With the RFD2210 I was using previous I hit 135db @ 37Hz on the Termpro Mic. The enclosure it was in was also tuned to 28Hz.

Bear in mind it was a 10" sub, with a sensitivity rating of 85db.

With the same amp again, but with a 12" sub of 93db sensitivity, I think I should notice a little difference. :)

Wow dude, I had no idea you did a reading like that... very very impressive as you say, considering:-

The very low sensitivity of that sub
The fact it's only a 10"
It's hidden away in the boot of a saloon

Congratulations fella, most impressive :)

1KW off a Fusion Jonah Lomu Matt.

The enclosure I've designed & built is 2.6cu'ft tuned to 28Hz. Wether I'll settle for that or not is another matter I guess. Time will tell. :)

Just a suggestion mate, but the IDMAX shows supreme execution for going low and loud in a sealed box. Infact, I switch on my subsonic filter even in sealed due to the low rumbles this thing produces. Helps to keep things tight at the bottom end too.

You might want to seriously consider this more putting it in a ported box. Mine is almost past the danger point, i.e. the first week and all is bedding in nicely. Never before have I bought a sub with so many warnings on it to break in gently due to the critical margins of clearances.

I've also heard seriously good things about it's IB performance. From the response graphs, and peoples opinions of the low end while running it sealed, I can only imaging what running it IB would yield :eek:

Samhain, as far as I can see, there is no subsonic filter on the Fusion. Blade, do you know any different?

I'll just have to take it easy for a while until it's broken in.....although I'm sure the temptation to crank it up will be great. :)

Hey Blade, at T8, I only hit 123db-ish, on the old mics, with the same sub. Amazing what a bit of tweaking will do. ;)

Your definitely right Bibby... As the old Cliche goes, 10% equipment, 90% install ;)

The fusion does have a subsonic filter, variable all the way from 0hz (all the way to the left) to 200hz IIRC (all the way to the right)

The control is on the same side of the amp as the gain control, phase adjust, LPF etc.

What's it called, as I can't see one called subsonic or whatever? Having a thick moment obviously....

Sorry mate... I got a bit mixed up... the LPF goes from 50hz -> 250hz

The Subsonic filter goes from 10hz -> 35hz, and is the second knob in from the left on the amp

From left to right, the controls should go:

Gain Control
Sub Sonic
HPF
Q (boost)
Phase Shift On/Off
Phase Shift (0-180 degrees)

Hahaha, it's even called subsonic. Told you I was having a thick moment.

Hahaha, it's even called subsonic. Told you I was having a thick moment.

You spanner! Remind me to give you some abuse next time I see you! ;) :D

Can you tell it's been ages since I even touched my gear? OOOH, I could crush a grape... :D

Can you tell it's been ages since I even touched my gear? OOOH, I could crush a grape... :D

Lol I could test drive a Tonka (or an IDMAX)

Do you still get Tonka toys ?

http://www.hasbropreschool.com/tonka/

Apparently so!

Someone else who remember Stu Francis, lol... :raz:

Just a suggestion mate, but the IDMAX shows supreme execution for going low and loud in a sealed box. Infact, I switch on my subsonic filter even in sealed due to the low rumbles this thing produces. Helps to keep things tight at the bottom end too.

You might want to seriously consider this more putting it in a ported box. Mine is almost past the danger point, i.e. the first week and all is bedding in nicely. Never before have I bought a sub with so many warnings on it to break in gently due to the critical margins of clearances.

I'm with Stu here, but each to there own..interestingly ID prefer the use of passive radiators...not sure why however :)

Stu, how you getting on, when are we going to see a write up?

Well there's definitely a subsonic filter, so all is good. :)

ok so what u lot think, which is louder/ most streetbass sub out of the 13w7 in it's own perfect cut box, or xxx15 in it's perfect cut box??

with 800 watts, I wouldn't go for either :)

only sayin this cos i seen 2x13w7 for £630, and 1 rexxx15 on CAD costs 400

well, I'm not a great one for the W7s, but 2x 13s for £630 has to be done really, they are £800rrp each...

i know exactly my point, unless i can find cheaper re's?

EDIT: i think it spossibly due to the fact that a 9515 gets going real good with 2k+, while a 35 does very well with about half of that power.



hells going on :D

Exactly, if you are running a street bass system, why do you want to lug round 10 x 2kw amps, half a tonne of batteries for just a couple of subs?

I'm with Stu here, but each to there own..interestingly ID prefer the use of passive radiators...not sure why however :)

Stu, how you getting on, when are we going to see a write up?


Soon mate, don't want to jump the gun and give this thing a chance to sing before I give my views.

Good man, well, e await with interest :)

Did you brace the box btw, even on such a smll bx (which I would never have used to brce) due to how low these things drop it would seem imperitve that you do so ;)

Soon mate, don't want to jump the gun and give this thing a chance to sing before I give my views.

Would love to hear your views too m8. I'm wetting myself in anticipation of being able to turn it up. :cheese:

just do it mate, if don't push it it will never run in anyway :)