Could someone define "Streetbass"?

I'm completely clueless on this one.

aj :D

Fun... Pure fun... :D

Streetbass is low, and it's loud... the sort of musical Bass that goes down really well at shows, and makes a big wobbly mess out of your internal organs... we like it... alot!

Streetbass systems don't meter well, but are musical, and not the "one-note-wonder" type you usually see in the lanes...

Usually achieved by using a combination of:-

Lots of cone area
Lots of amp power
Ported box designs
High power handling subs
and the Audiocontrol Epicenter :twisted:

You don't need all of these things to do streetbass... some of the best streetbass systems have been Sealed designs, many have been done with a single sub, but lots of power on tap is a neccessity :)

low n loud

well thats what it means to me

usually achievable with 15" or larger subs and with around 1k+ of power (and an epic to give any track that added boost ;) )

would be interesting what other people perspective is on this though

EDIT: might have known Blade would beat me to it :p

hum - good stuff - was about to aask this myself!!

I am thinking about swapping my polk momo for an re se 12 in a ported box - tuned LOW!!

To continue... As we know, SPL systems are designed to hit seriously high figures on the meter, which is done by tailoring a system, and particularly enclosure design, to producing a single frequency, as obscene volume levels.

This does have the effect of greatly reducing the "musicality" of a system, often to unlistenable levels, giving associated increases in group delay, and for the most part, removing a speakers ability to play much below tuning frequency, which can be as high as 70hz in some cases, resulting in a loss of musical bass performance.

Streetbass systems however, often only score in the 140s as far as metered performance goes, but drop on a music CD with plenty of low frequency information on it, and a Streetbass system really will come into it's own... these are the systems that demolish buildings and set off car alarms... should you be that way inclined ;) But also sound good, and be pleasurable to listen to in the process

Creating a Streetbass monster is harder than many imagine... In my eyes, it all comes down to Watts... this is the imperative part. If you have a lot of power available, your gonna end up with a streetbass capable system, no-matter what real configuration of subs/enclosures you go for. This sounds a little strange, but i'll explain below:-

The trick is gaining as many USEABLE watts as possible. There is no point in having 3000WRMS of amplifier power available, if you only have a single sub, capable of handling 500WRMS, as thats all your gonna be able to use. However, bump this up to 6 subs, and suddenly your gonna be able to make use of all that amp power, despite not having any heavyweight subs involved, made to take obscene levels of power.

To look at it another way, that 3000WRMS could just as easily be fed into a single, beast-of-a-sub, for the same sort of results.

However, a factor that needs careful attention in a Streetbass system is the vehicles power supply... if your amplifier produced 3000WRMS @ 14.4v, but your electical system is only capable of supplying a steady 11.5v, again, that useable Wattage is reduced dramatically, perhaps losing 1/3 of it's output, stressing the need for uprated altenators, and large banks of Batteries.

Enclosure design also plays a big part in Streetbass, with low ported designs, tuned in the high 20s, or low 30s (hz) usually being the favourite. These designs extend a speakers ability to produce low frequencies, and give you a superb low end response. Another school of thought is that of sealed subs... sealed boxes can increase a drivers mechanical power handling, through restricting the subs excursion, allowing more power to be utilised, thus giving a gain in output, while maintaining a sealed box's natural tendancy to be musical.

However it's achieved, Streetbass is awesome fun, and farts in the face of the SQ girls... and we like that ;) :D

street bass is acheiveable with sealed sub boxs but obviously not as good as a ported designed enclosures ;) but its no good having tiny woofers you need 15s to move that air
its the best form of class to be in it only has one aim to rattle people as you drive by :D

Fun... Pure fun... :D
that's my description of SPL as well :smoke:


oh btw...or very own forum to play in...MINT ... now all the SQ ladies can leave us alone ! lol

I'd rather hang around in mens public toilets than here.

Go and play in the ladies section then... SQ boy!

StreetBass is loud and low.
Not so long ago StreetBass in a boot of a car was pish and not worh doing.
But now with the subs we have today +Class D at a fair price it is well worth doing E.G a XXX or HC and a Nemisis or 2 not forgetting power supply of course and a fair size box and you've cracked it! and it doesn't have to cost the earth.

I am a hardcore StreetBasser and TBH once you have heard a StreetBass set up done well in a Wall there in no turning back.

So to me when i hear the word StreetBass i think of Walled cars .Am,DumDum,"THE nova",Ray's Beemer,K+M tranny to name a few.

ah,street bass sounds like my sorta thing :) sql seemed a bit pointless tbh,i mean,expensive system,only plays one note,why bother?the whole point is so you can listen to music :)

ah,street bass sounds like my sorta thing :) sql seemed a bit pointless tbh,i mean,expensive system,only plays one note,why bother?the whole point is so you can listen to music :)
As Zim would say: its all in the numbers ;)

M:B

I can see the merits of both SPL and Streetbass... SPL all goes a bit far when the car is unsuitable for daily driving, and nigh-on unlistenable for music

However, alot of the SPL guys use a technique called "Port-Plugging" which involves the sue of a secondary port, which can be fitted over the high-tuned SPL port, in order to tune lower. There are a lot of group delay issues with doing this, but it does make an SPL install a lot more pleasent to listen to as far as music goes :)

Would any of this be useful for the FAQ?

an spl/streetbass/sql faq qould be great,i'm still not sure about the whole thing (as shown above).

What else do you want to know VZA?

Evrything

Well i'm not going to attempt to post a 32 page article on bass... you'll have to be a bit more specific about what you want to know about than that... :p

LOL @ Rich - I think you being abit unreasonable there m8 ;)

nice one! very good post there blade!

Well Blade does have a point: thats like asking for the meaning of life! (almost ;))

What kind of things do you want to know tonyz? Why we do it? How you achieve it (what kit, how much to spend etc etc)? Where do the terms come from? Just some rough ideas would help us out a little :)

M:B

If there was a competition for streetbass it would consist of:
Seeing how far away you can set off car alarms.
Seeing how many cash machine shock alarms you could set off.
Just how damn far away you can be heard. (we are talking miles, as some of the best classic street bass monsters could, like K+M, Ian Pinder(aka Iceman) my old Bug etc)

Most streetbass monsters used to be sealed, mega efficient, with not much powerby current standards ike less than 500watts a sub. Those were the days, when you actually competed at 30Hz :-)

i think there should be a "under 30Hz class" or somthing similar, cos i think bass should be BASS! :D :D :D

i just love wobbling the hell outa things! its all good fun, most fun in multi story car parks though ;)

Andrew

I was just saying that blades post was very informative


Well Blade does have a point: thats like asking for the meaning of life! (almost ;))

What kind of things do you want to know tonyz? Why we do it? How you achieve it (what kit, how much to spend etc etc)? Where do the terms come from? Just some rough ideas would help us out a little :)

M:B

Sorry I totally didnt realise it was VZA who was asking :red: So ignore all of my last post, as it was aimed at him/her...

M:B

lol, no worries mate :)

i think there should be a "under 30Hz class" or somthing similar, cos i think bass should be BASS! :D :D :D

Andrew

definitely agree with that Andy!

i think that class would get lots of spectators, i personally would prefer this to the higher tuning events

and firestarter the things you would be marked against would be fun :D

how come it moved away from competing in low tuning to higher tuning?

definitely agree with that Andy!

i think that class would get lots of spectators, i personally would prefer this to the higher tuning events

and firestarter the things you would be marked against would be fun :D

how come it moved away from competing in low tuning to higher tuning?
An interesting point indeed :D A new thread is a-coming for that...

M:B

Because it they are louder, and thats what SPL is all about, the score :)

People will push the limit in any sport, we have just got to hope the limit is brought down. I would be happy with 50 or even 60Hz, because it will still sound good there.

I don't understand why someone who is loaded and into SPL hasn't turned up in a LWB transit stuffed full of so many amps and batteries it brakes all the records

I don't understand why someone who is loaded and into SPL hasn't turned up in a LWB transit stuffed full of so many amps and batteries it brakes all the records

Cos it aint as simple as all that. :p

Amps and batteries help alot, and so does money.

But the biggest thing that gains dB is knowledge and testing, and you cant buy that.

Funnily enough though the loudest car in the country at the moment is a transit LOL, it has a fair amount of batteries and enough amps but hes used alot of experience to get it as loud as it is.

Ben

The loudest car in the world in SS1-2 is an AX.... Just a bit smaller than a tranny, and it is louder than ANY car EVER has been in the UK :wow:

indeed. you see you measure the pressure built up inside the cabin.

this is going to be directly proportional to the size of said cabin (and the shape of it as well - but lets keep it simplish for now)

also lots of woofers require lots of airspace AND port to really work. which means (by and large) a large surface for the wall - which means a larger airspace to fit in general!!!!!