View Full Version : what subs 4 streetbass?


bassadikt
08-01-2004, 08:23 PM
question:
if you had 2x jl 1000/1 amplifiers :clown: , 4 cubic feet to play with and could use any subwoofer combination (1 or more sub(s)) regardless of price whatwould you run for sql (decent quality for daily driving and the ability to drop and do so at the highest volumes acheivable off the jl amps? (sub boxes can be either ported and sealed)

Blade
08-01-2004, 08:25 PM
what sort of box space do you have available?

bassadikt
08-01-2004, 08:35 PM
4 cubic feet mate

bassadikt
08-01-2004, 08:35 PM
saxo boot basically

Blade
08-01-2004, 08:37 PM
Well, that amount of bootspace is a little limiting, as-well I know, doing exactly the same streetbass thing in a saxo too :)

Your pretty much looking at 2 options... 2 Sealed subs, or a single low ported design

Have you thought about which you'd prefer?

bassadikt
08-01-2004, 08:41 PM
i dont know to be honest i prefer my curent setup 2 r types in thier ported box as its louder and dops better.
(btw the 1000/1 give off around 1300wrms on their birthsheets).
what in your opinion would be louder? esp at a cruise/meet 2 sealed subs or 1 ported? can any subs handle 2600w?
i want some quality as well cz i dnt av it loud all the time.
i was thinking 2 12" w7s (according to the jl site they only need 1.7 cubes ported)

Blade
08-01-2004, 08:47 PM
I think you'll have trouble fitting 2 ported subs in that sort of space... bear in mind also that that level of output will definitely need a 2nd battery installing, which takes up room, as will the amps

Assuming the subs will work just fine in those small ported boxes, the W7s would be a sound enough choice, and should sound pretty nice in the process. I made the Saxo boot to be about 5cuft in total :)

Sealed would be an effective way of getting 2 subs in there which would take that power effectively, but ported is gonna have more of a dropping ability, and is a real crowd puller, although can require larger boxes

bassadikt
08-01-2004, 08:51 PM
yeah.
i know that port vents allow the sub tio be tuned but what does the size of the enclosure mean?
doesc it decrease efficiency or something?

jamiebae
08-01-2004, 08:52 PM
I'd go for something like a single XXX 18 in a ported box if you can fit it in the boot with an amp on each coil. That would go very loud and low and certainly pull the crowds!

buff
08-01-2004, 08:53 PM
2 hc 12's tuned low would be good.with that sort of power

Migroo
08-01-2004, 08:53 PM
I dunno if you'd fit an 18 in?

But yeah a quad coil XXX (whatever size you like, but larger than a 12) with an amp on two coils would be good.

bassadikt
08-01-2004, 08:54 PM
what would you do in my situation? as your looking for the same thing as me in the same car?
your h2 looks real nice but i dont like to copy!

jamiebae
08-01-2004, 09:03 PM
I dunno if you'd fit an 18 in?

That's what I meant, you might manage to get one in firing upwards directly at the parcel shelf, otherwise an XXX or H2 15 would probably do the job with that kind of power up it!

Mr Bump
08-01-2004, 09:03 PM
Saxo? Batteries in place of the spare wheel ;)

Can of tyre weld in the glovebox.

Ben

Blade
08-01-2004, 09:08 PM
I'd go for something like a single XXX 18 in a ported box if you can fit it in the boot with an amp on each coil. That would go very loud and low and certainly pull the crowds!

Sorry J, but aint no way your gonna fit a ported 18, with that much power, and those amps int he boot of a Saxo :D

(As much as I wish you could :))

The H2 is a crackin sub, as is the xxx, and the W7... but also look at the option of 2 sealed subs, around the 1000w-1200wrms range each... my personal choice would perhaps be a pair of the Directed CompX subs, and i'm sure people will disagree with me, but due to the inefficiencies of putting masses of power through a single sub, i'd say you'd get the CompXs to go louder... although not as low

Would also need less box space, meaning things would be less tight, and you'd have more room for batteries, or a little bit of general install blingyness :D

bassadikt
08-01-2004, 09:15 PM
why the comp x subs/ do they work well in small sealed? weunt 2 w7s be louder, you obviously know better than i do but surely 2 w7s would be louder than 2 compxs? correct me if im wron g which i most probably am!

jamiebae
08-01-2004, 09:18 PM
You could always look at Crystal Comp 12s like Dale has, they're certainly far from quiet!

Blade
08-01-2004, 09:37 PM
why the comp x subs/ do they work well in small sealed? weunt 2 w7s be louder, you obviously know better than i do but surely 2 w7s would be louder than 2 compxs? correct me if im wron g which i most probably am!

The CompX subs have always worked well in small sealed enclosures, which would be perfect if your trying to get em into a small car like yours or mine...

If you've got 1300wrms to throw into each sub, i'd be dubious about the W7s taking that power without cooking our gonna be spanking em hard for extended amounts of time at shows etc.

The CompXs should take that amount, if not very close to it, and are happy being worked hard for quite a while... These are the same subs Jumpstarter uses in his infamous Rover Turbo... they ran sealed and were a serious crowd puller

bassadikt
08-01-2004, 09:39 PM
yeah would both of them fit ported? if not would 1 15" comp x ported be louder than 2 12s?

jamiebae
08-01-2004, 09:42 PM
If you've got 1300wrms to throw into each sub, i'd be dubious about the W7s taking that power without cooking our gonna be spanking em hard for extended amounts of time at shows etc.

The 1000/1 and W7 were designed to work together so I don't suppose there'll be any problems with the subs taking the power.

Woosey
08-01-2004, 09:45 PM
any w7 apart from the 10" will take a 1000/1 all day :0

also loudboy - saxo spare type is under the car ;)

bassadikt
08-01-2004, 09:47 PM
ok so 2 12w7s or 2 12comp xs? what would be loudest and have decent quality in the tiny saxo boot?

jamiebae
08-01-2004, 10:05 PM
I'd have a pair of XXX or H2 12s instead, it'll save you a few hundred quid over the W7 and both are designed to be more streetbass oriented than the JL.

I haven't heard the Directed CompX subs so I can't comment on them.

Blade
08-01-2004, 10:08 PM
Personally, i'd still say the CompX would have the power handling edge ont he JL W7... cracking subs that they both are :)

bassadikt
08-01-2004, 11:49 PM
ok, well ive read that the comp x is more suited to smaller enclosures then the xxx so would the comp x be louder than the xxx in my situation?

Migroo
08-01-2004, 11:55 PM
You want to try to get as much cone area as possible in with as much power as you can in a GOOD enclosure.

Dont get too much cone area for your enclosure :)

I'd stick with an XXX 15 tbh :)

vegabass
09-01-2004, 12:12 AM
If you want loud SQL / streetbass then I would suggest you don't get those amps (unless you own them already). Instead for the same money buy a yellow top or two and a directed 2400 / orion 2500D etc. Then you'd have more money to spend on the sub, or better fronts, or... a more powerful amp than those mentioned. But those 1000/1's are absolute beaut's! But I think with two of them, you're gonna have to have split charge, even though they do have regulated power supplies. Just my thoughts.

VD
09-01-2004, 11:20 AM
2 12's ported will fit easily.

we have been thru this already.

i would advise looking at a smaller (physically) amp than the 2 JL's though if space is an issue - there are a feew ways around it.

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civic mick
11-01-2004, 08:07 PM
no offence but i have heard the comp x range of woofers and i dont think they r in the same league as say an xxx or a w7 i dont think it is fair 2 compare them 2 each other

bassadikt
12-01-2004, 05:54 AM
what about the idmax how would that compare to the w7 and xxx?