First off, who will be going on the Saturday?

And 2nd, does anyone know how much it will cost to compete, if i'm already in the show?

Ta.

i'll be there.

as for cost, its £40 which includes the weekend entry. you'll have to speak to the guys at IASCA to see if they can sort you anything out.

I'd like to come just for the laugh, show etc. but obviously won't be competeing. Not sure if i'm busy though which sucks

I think we could really use some extra competitors....

So come on who is going to give it a go?????

Andy

i would, andy, if i had a front end in the car :)

just blue tack a tweeter on the dash... you never know you may get lucky ;) :clown: :lol:


Andy

Ill be there, not competing though.

Doubt ill drive. May have to leave early so i might.

Oz

just blue tack a tweeter on the dash... you never know you may get lucky ;) :clown: :lol:


Andy

and not have them running at all? :lol: ive still gotta install amp etc :p just wait till next season m'boi!

i think if things dont pick up and more people dont start taking an interest there could be dout over next season

If I was starting a fresh install I'd install it to competition standards, but I just CBA to take it all out and do it again!

Plus I don't think my install is anywhere near good enough!

If I was starting a fresh install I'd install it to competition standards, but I just CBA to take it all out and do it again!

Plus I don't think my install is anywhere near good enough!

Doesnt need to be for rookie.

If i had all the equipment in, even in the state it was at motb, just the amps screwed to a piece of wood i would compete.

Oz

If I was starting a fresh install I'd install it to competition standards, but I just CBA to take it all out and do it again!

Plus I don't think my install is anywhere near good enough!

This is why sqc is there, sound only!

Doesn't matter if your car catches fire during judging.... you still won't lose any points. (edit unless the judges die, get hurt or do not get to finish judging)

www.iascauk.com get yourself entered today and see how you do at the weekend. There could be a chance of a trophy if your lucky / good ;)

Andy

I may do idBl, depends what the system is playing like as i have no re-cone kits.

If I was starting a fresh install I'd install it to competition standards, but I just CBA to take it all out and do it again!

Plus I don't think my install is anywhere near good enough!

statements like that really do confuse me,we all had to start somewhere,at my first competition the wiring was all over the place everything was pretty much thrown in and it had no real setup.

competing is far more than trying to win a trophy,if you have an interest in car audio and want to learn to get the best from it competing is a great way to go.

i cant think of anyone who has entered from the rookie classes and not let there system evolve after each competition,be that by small amounts of tuning here and there to completely revamping an install.

i think its almost best to start with as simple an install as possible,because it will change as you go on,and normally for the better.

the sad fact is the way things are going there may not be any competitions available in the uk.

after reading Paul MX3's post I will try and compete in at least 1 event this year be it either EMMA or IASCA

after reading Paul MX3's post I will try and compete in at least 1 event this year be it either EMMA or IASCA
Seconded. I wished I had competed at Hop Farm a few weeks ago now, Donnington is too far. Although I don't know the difference between EMMA and IASCA :o

the journey is half the fun though, its a good road trip when you convoy up to a show.

next one is at peterborough which isnt too far.

the only one im not looking forward to driving to is source in sheffield. not to say i wont go, sometimes you have to put the effort in, not everything can be on your door step.

a few northeners made the trip down south to hop farm, so really cant complain about doing a similar trip. its all good fun :)

Try both and find out Sam. Don't talk about it, just do it.

Forget what your wiring or your install is like. Just enter. I dare you! :p

No matter what level your system is, it will improve by competing. That's what it's all about.


http://www.iascauk.com/

There you go. Click on events and enter. It'll take 5 mins with a paypal account ;)

EDIT: Sam, the last time I heard your system it sounded better than a number of competition cars I've heard. Just have a go :)

EDIT: Sam, the last time I heard your system it sounded better than a number of competition cars I've heard. Just have a go :)
That's very reassuring, thanks John.

I'll check out the IASACA website later at home and have a think about it. Ideally I'd like to get my sub amp fixed first, so will have a think about it. Plus I'm getting a new car very soon. Definately next season though, I just always thought that to compete you have to have high end kit, top notch fabrication/installation etc.

Is it possible to enter and pay on the day or does it need to be sorted before hand?

Ask on the IASCA forum for confirmation.


http://www.iascauk.com/forum/index.php

I just always thought that to compete you have to have high end kit, top notch fabrication/installation etc.

This is the problem a lot of people think that but you couldn't be further from the truth.

This is the very reason why IASCA have novice 1, novice 2, and rookie or you could just enter SQC.

I'll be there rookie'ing it up again.

LM Audio will be having a stand with a few of their cars on display too.

Where is it? I may pop down. Won't be competing, it sounds like ass and my car isn't exactly a minter:lol:.

Where is it? I may pop down. Won't be competing, it sounds like ass and my car isn't exactly a minter:lol:.


next one is at peterborough which isnt too far.

:rolleyes: :p

no rolling of eyes untill you've entered :p

I thought he meant the next one after this current one this Saturday.

Peterborough is about 1hr 30 mins drive from Warwick I think, so I reckon I'll pop down :D, and not compete :).

I thought he meant the next one after this current one this Saturday.

Peterborough is about 1hr 30 mins drive from Warwick I think, so I reckon I'll pop down :D, and not compete :).

Why do that when you can pop down and compete for just a little more than the entry to the show?

Get yourself entered and come see what the judges think, You have nothing to lose and it could give you the pointers you need to build a car to the full rules. Then you have 6 weeks before the next show to get ready or if you have to get yourself ready for a full season next year????

Andy

If (and this is a big IF) I came down and entered, then next year I wouldn't be able to enter Rookie would I?

I've still got a fair bit to do to mine, but it might be a laugh just to see how I do as it stands.

If (and this is a big IF) I came down and entered, then next year I wouldn't be able to enter Rookie would I?

I've still got a fair bit to do to mine, but it might be a laugh just to see how I do as it stands.

worth asking them on the iasca site.

isnt that what novice is for? its also cheaper too i think

You are correct, If you ask on the site I'm sure they would let you try one show this year and let you continue in rookie next year.

However I have moved from rookie to Street this year and apart from less competitors it's not really any different so if you competed all season and then moved up it's no real harm.

Andy

Why do that when you can pop down and compete for just a little more than the entry to the show?

Get yourself entered and come see what the judges think, You have nothing to lose and it could give you the pointers you need to build a car to the full rules. Then you have 6 weeks before the next show to get ready or if you have to get yourself ready for a full season next year????

Andy

I guess I could, but tbh it will fail on most things, such as the wires (a mess :lol: although they are hidden), the bluetacked tweeters :lol:, as well as the **** poor staging (biased to the right, with not alot of width or depth, although the height is not bad at all). I'd rather enter when some of the fundamentals were not miles off course, as my equipment won't allow me to qualify for novice. But I guess you have a point. It's a base.

thing is, install bits are the easy things to fix and get right so does it matter if you lose points there? sq points are what i see as important.

I've been looking on the IASCA website and it has sparked a small interest in competing, but I don't think I'm dedicated enough to go up to Donny/Sheffield etc! Plus, even if I compete once this season, I can't enter as Rookie next season :confused:

After looking at the score sheet so far, here (http://www.iascauk.com/results07/leagues.pdf), (I'm assuming David Walker is ass_junkie and Nigel Skingley is nige), Dave is on 28 pts and nige is on 30. Are the scoring systems for the different classes they're in differ, or is Dave's car only really 2 pts behind nige?

Also, what's the difference between Rookie 1-1000 and Rookie 1001+? And what does IASCA stand for? :whatever:

Sorry for all the questions, there's probably a thread somewhere that has answered all these....

nothing says you have to do every show. lots of people just doing local events to get feedback would be good for numbers.

as for scoring, you got it abit wromg. you cant compare league points between classes. the higher the class the more is judged to higher scores are possible. then in each class there are league points for first, second etc....

I've been looking on the IASCA website and it has sparked a small interest in competing, but I don't think I'm dedicated enough to go up to Donny/Sheffield etc! Plus, even if I compete once this season, I can't enter as Rookie next season :confused:

After looking at the score sheet so far, here (http://www.iascauk.com/results07/leagues.pdf), (I'm assuming David Walker is ass_junkie and Nigel Skingley is nige), Dave is on 28 pts and nige is on 30. Are the scoring systems for the different classes they're in differ, or is Dave's car only really 2 pts behind nige?

Also, what's the difference between Rookie 1-1000 and Rookie 1001+? And what does IASCA stand for? :whatever:

Sorry for all the questions, there's probably a thread somewhere that has answered all these....


I will try to answer the questions clearly:)

The points is a total given that nige has won both events so far so scored 20 points for the first (Double pointer) and 10 points for the second (Single pointer) and has therfore scored 30 points in total towards his league position in his class.

Dave has score 28 points so far over the 2 comps which count to his league position in his class.

1st = 10 points (20 at double)
2nd = 9 points (18 at double)
3rd = 8 points (16 at double)
and so on.

0-1000 / 1001+ is the total watts of the system giving us two rookie classes. (low and high powered)

IASCA
International Auto Sound Challenge Association

Hope this helps and it would be good to see you competing:D

The league points are based on league placing.

The league placing are based on the judge scoring (out of XXX)

So you can only compare positions acheived from those scores.

Oz

Right, I'm with it now.

Thanks guys :D

If it could be sorted for you to enter for a show or two this year and still be able to enter rookie next year who would be interested in entering?

Andy

I wouldn't mind tbh, as long as my staging is sorted first :), as well as my builds for the tweeters as well as doorcards (currently pushed by the spacers on the mids due to the 18mm baffles allowing the Rainbow baskets to clear the door (they're odd baskets). Is it normally about £40 to enter per event then?

me !

Tiny

yep :)

Get yourself a tent and it's some cheap weekends. Last year i bought a tent for £50 lasted all season and all i had to pay for was entry fuel and food.

There is no way i could afford to stay in hotels, £50 for a tent and that was it.

Andy

Tent I already have :D. Now need to sort the car :lol:.

Can I just say to the people who are worried about the equipment in their cars not being competitive.... When I first started competing I had a boot full of Kicker amps, a Kicker front end and a cassette head unit. Not what you would call a typical SQ setup!

I still had a lot of fun competing, made a lot of new friends and still managed to pick up quite a few trophies.

You can see the point I am making.

It's not all about winning. It is not a bunch of blokes standing around looking down their noses at new comers because they don't have all the right gear or the best install.

All of the competitors, without execption, Iasca or Emma, would go out of their way to help a newcomer to the scene. or point them in the direction of someone who can. Whether it be with setup, installation or potential new equipment advice.

It really would be great to see a lot of new people competing because as a scene this is what keeps it going.

yep :)

Get yourself a tent and it's some cheap weekends. Last year i bought a tent for £50 lasted all season and all i had to pay for was entry fuel and food.

There is no way i could afford to stay in hotels, £50 for a tent and that was it.

Andy
your tent was not a tent though - it was a sodding castle

you could do what i do and sleep in the car at these events - saves the cost of a tent

your tent was not a tent though - it was a sodding castle


Bahahaha! Andy is the only person i know whos tent has a built in garage for the car! :clown:

i know - i keep kicking myself that i never got a pic of him parking his car in his tent

this year i will

ah well i will see all you sq lot this weekend

OT - nige is it cool if i have a poke about the rover when yovue been judged as i want to get a propper look at it in its current state if its going to be at mod natts

Well there's no chance me entering this one, I overlooked the fact I'm off to the Isle of Man next week for the TT and I need to get some stuff sorted on Saturday in preparation.

However, looking at the IASCA site, there's the one at Source in August, that's local-ish and gives me plenty of time to get my act together, hide a few wires, relocate some tweeters and carpet some bits!

went to the one at donny north and shall be at modded nationals getting some advice and idea for install's

some really nice freidnly guys, willing to chat and help you

my tickets arrived today. looks like its going to be a good show :D

OT - nige is it cool if i have a poke about the rover when yovue been judged as i want to get a propper look at it in its current state if its going to be at mod natts

No probs Sam, you can have a proper listen too. Don't forget to come and see me, as the Rover is being stripped on monday! :twisted:

Well this is my 1st year of competing and i'm in rookie, and tbh, I wish i hadn't left it so long! They IASCA guys and the fellow competitors are really good people. And at each event, you walk away with ways of improving the sound too!

If (and this is a big IF) I came down and entered, then next year I wouldn't be able to enter Rookie would I?


As far as I know you can enter Novice this year and still enter Rookie next year. So why not come along to one of the IASCA events this year and give it a go. ;)

Any of you fairies going to be there on Sunday? If so I wouldn't mind a listen :).

im there :)

Any chance of me entering either IASCA or BassRace if I was to pay at the gate do you know? Me thinks I'll have a listen to yours Dave, and others if I can find any of you :lol:.

they often seem to let people enter on the morning if you didnt pay in time, but you would need to check with them.
ask on the iasca forum asap as i dont know when they are leaving.

I will be there on sunday only. anyone is more than welcome to have a listen after judging. Just come and find me.:)

I will be there on sunday only. anyone is more than welcome to have a listen after judging. Just come and find me.:)


Is that what you say to all the boys? :twisted: :clown:

Just come and find me. :chunks: :p