just thought i would post a couple of pics of todays work, recieved my sound deadening this morning so i got to work when i got home from work, a few pics :)

peugeots idea of sound deadening.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/danxs/P1010028.jpg

halfway through............
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/danxs/P1010029.jpg

pretty much finnished.......
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/danxs/P1010030.jpg

:), the door as loads more solid now and feels alot nicer to close, havn't been out in yet as i havn't done the other door!
any pointers where i have gone wrong?

Good work there my son :)

should add some crispness to track 4 :lol:

:lol: :D You can come do mine if you like :smokin: :D

i seem to of used 12 sq ft on that door alone :s, pop round and see me, i'll get my heat gun out again! lol

None on the inner skin?

What deadening is it?

there is some on the inner skin, i just hadn't done all the way down when i took the pics. its R-blox deadening.

Put some on the inner skin behind the speaker. Works a treat and'll stop a bit of road noise mixing in behind it.

I've recently done the doors on my 205 and it's made a big difference on the road. Only a budget effort, with 2 layers of bodyline type stuff on the doorskin (3 behind where the drivers will be), and a layer of flashing tape to seal up all the holes, but it seems to work well enough.

I'm surprised how many people get their inner and outer skins mixed up though. You all seem to be referencing it from the inside of the car, when it should be done from the outside:
The inner skin is the one you can see in the picture with all the 'holes' in it.
The outer skin is the solid skin that you see from the outside of the car.

I'm surprised how many people get their inner and outer skins mixed up though. You all seem to be referencing it from the inside of the car, when it should be done from the outside:
The inner skin is the one you can see in the picture with all the 'holes' in it.
The outer skin is the solid skin that you see from the outside of the car.

What's to say you're right and we're wrong? :twisted:

Why should it be done from the outside when you're working on it from the inside of the car?

You are technically right but everyone who has replied gets the jist. If you are inside the car looking at the door then surely it would be concievable to be an inner skin as its the further most point inside the door

inner = skin which is closest to the inside of the car, ie the holey one

outer = skin closest to the outside of the car, ie the big solid one

Its the way 99.9% of people refer to them

inner = skin which is closest to the inside of the car, ie the holey one

outer = skin closest to the outside of the car, ie the big solid one

Its the way 99.9% of people refer to them

I do it the 'different' way then :P

if you can cover all the holes (doesnt have to be soundproofing) it will make a huge difference. i did mine with carboard and tape, and made a huge difference...(along with sound proofing)

inner = skin which is closest to the inside of the car, ie the holey one

outer = skin closest to the outside of the car, ie the big solid one

Its the way 99.9% of people refer to them
Exactly. It's just the way the car industry has always refered to them, to avoid this type of confusion. :)

Put some on the inner skin behind the speaker. Works a treat and'll stop a bit of road noise mixing in behind it.
already done, just need to get my pods in and some front speakers and the front end is done :)

keep the pics coming ;)

i will when i get more progress! its a bit wet to go out and do the other door today :(

never stopped me in the past, just get a jumper on, extension lead and **** all the doors and slowly cook yourself in a nice warm car.:clown:

i cant apply deadening to a closed door! lol, if i was outside, i would get electrocuted (spelling?!), the heat gun would disagree with water i think! lol

I haven't filled the holes in my car. How can you when there is bits to go in there :confused:

I haven't filled the holes in my car. How can you when there is bits to go in there :confused:

he means the big fapping holes on the door skin, not all the little holes for clip etc

plus if there is something IN the hole, it is sealed :p :D

plus if there is something IN the hole, it is sealed :p :D

Meh ........be queit :p

finally stopped raining, so did the other door, ran out of R-blox so theres a roll of ivanhoe on this one too!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/danxs/P1010002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/danxs/P1010001.jpg

and a pic of my new sticker! lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/danxs/restick.jpg
looks a bit on the wonk in that pic, i cant notice it by eye though :s

I can :p

Good job with the deadening though mate, keep it up and keep the pics coming

no more pics now untill i get some bits! the boot build pics are around somewhere!

no more pics now untill i get some bits! the boot build pics are around somewhere!

Get um posted then bud, have you deadened the boot as well?

what sort of price would you be looking at to do what youve done say per door? ive always considered deadening but i just dont have enough music to make it feasable, but the next car hopefully will be different :)

i have deadend the boot, should of put more in than i did really, still a couple of layers in there..............

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c36/jade106/P1010017.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c36/jade106/P1010025.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c36/jade106/P1010021.jpg

ibiza 95, i used about £20 of deadening on each door, there abouts anyway :)

what sort of price would you be looking at to do what youve done say per door? ive always considered deadening but i just dont have enough music to make it feasable, but the next car hopefully will be different :)

Depends on what materail you would use and how much at the minium i would look at ones of these on each door

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=1040&cadid=ce66193d5a3a4dc1c6044f8bce63bdb2

EDIT: That port looks straight pimping :cool: how did you get that down there

hmmm bit more than i had bargained for then, boot looks nice by the way :) noticed that red material doesnt come cheap either! just bought an amp of ashgardiner if you know him from here so i should be joining the audio club early next week :D

you get your ex girlfriend who is a dab hand at that kind of thing to do it! lol, i will ask her..........

you get your ex girlfriend who is a dab hand at that kind of thing to do it! lol, i will ask her..........

Meh shes useless! Looks really good though. How does it cope with the gusts of wind coming though the port?

god knows, its not been run with the trimming in it yet!

looks good mate, can't wait to get my proofing done as a lot of people i know (mainly at work :rolleyes:) seem to think it's a total waste of time, should be fun showing them the difference :lol:

out of interest where did that sticker come from, looks cool as chuff :smokin:

god knows, its not been run with the trimming in it yet!

Make sure its stuck down real well then mate or it could look like fire is coming from out the port :clown: :lol:

monkeydog, i got the sticker off am singh

monkeydog, i got the sticker off am singh

I make my own..........oh the joys of been a signwriter :p

EDIT: That port looks straight pimping :cool: how did you get that down there

With great difficulty. Bit hard to explain how I did it. wish i had longer to trim it cos i rushed it abit in the end cos i needed to get bk to cornwall :(

With great difficulty. Bit hard to explain how I did it. wish i had longer to trim it cos i rushed it abit in the end cos i needed to get bk to cornwall :(
But with your little girly hands i would hav thought it wouldn't have been a problem :p

hehe yeh does help having small hands! :p

i hope the fabric stays in place once its all up and running, if not i will sort it out till it does what i say!!!

Thorough coverage there fella, will make a world of difference.

looks very good, i would advise after reading the break-in thread, to take that sticker off - bit of an advertisement to say the least! as no-one would put an RE sticker on if they didnt have any ICE worth nicking ;)
as they wouldnt know what RE is you see.

would be a shame to lose the gear, especially after you broke those nails fitting the red stuff in the port :p ;)

I have RE stickers on my car XXX ones aswell, but mu threoy behind this is what Chav do you know what RE is? If it said Audiobahn they would be in before you knew it

lookin good! nice work :smokin:

can i just ask. sorri off the topic kind of but whats better, r-blox, dynamat or summin else

i got 4 diff re stickers dont know if i should put them on

the r-blox seems quite good, but i have not used dynamat before, always think its too expensive. no need to worry about it going anywhere, its thatcham cat 1'd, usually garaged, if not outside my window, and never gets left anywhere really as i dont use it that much, plus i live in a place no one knows exists! lol

Looks a good job on those doors.

I'm just about to undergo my deadening, doors and boot, once I buy some off eBay. Gonna go for the 30sq ft roll of eDead for just over £50. Should do everything hopefully (Going in a Clio).

Dynamat Extreme is waaay too expensive IMO.

Apparently products like eDead are just branded flashing tape

Well I haven't bought any yet so am open to suggestions.

I hear Brown Bread is decent enough. There is also R-Blox that has been used above.

Well I haven't bought any yet so am open to suggestions.

I hear Brown Bread is decent enough. There is also R-Blox that has been used above.

Ive used a loaf of brown bread on my doors and im just about to order a bulk pack of the stuff to do the rest of my car, and iv got 2x custom packs of dynamat and 2x spray dynamat so that should deaden the whole of my clio quite nicley :lol:

Looks a good job on those doors.

I'm just about to undergo my deadening, doors and boot, once I buy some off eBay. Gonna go for the 30sq ft roll of eDead for just over £50. Should do everything hopefully (Going in a Clio).

Dynamat Extreme is waaay too expensive IMO.

Isn't brown bread £100 for 60/70sq ft?

I'm sure the edead stuff is the same price as BB and from the comments i've heard on the edead i thought BB seemed like a better and more safe option.

Isn't brown bread £100 for 60/70sq ft?

I'm sure the edead stuff is the same price as BB and from the comments i've heard on the edead i thought BB seemed like a better and more safe option.

Yeah its some thing ike that i can't remember what it works out to be but its 600mm x 10mtr :D

After some extra reading on the net I decided on getting some Second Skin Damplifier Pro from CAD (Easier to apply than Dynamat Extreme)

RAAMmat is good, third poster has link that works...

http://forum.elitecaraudio.com/showthread.php?threadid=130490

At the end of the day you get what you pay for with dynamat, brown bread, edead etc i did an extensive search on all the offerings and overall dynamat was mentioned again and again and again. Generally if you dont spend to much dont expect massive returns.

a few more pics from tonights work, got some temporary componets, so been putting those in........... and i know we all love pics.......
pod, no grill...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/danxs/pod4.jpg

pod, grill...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/danxs/pod.jpg

H/U....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/danxs/pod3.jpg

voltage gauge.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/danxs/pod2.jpg

tweeter.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/danxs/pod1.jpg

coming along......!

are they helix componenets dan

yes mate, they are helix blues, temporary until i get my precision's, they sound nice though, to be fair :)

wahey, coming along nicely Danny boy ;-)

Looks good Dan, i am half way thru R-bloxing mine, Whats it sound like?

sounding quite nice to be fair, not set it up yet, my first attempt at fully active so it'll take some doing to get right!

Lookin good dan :D - though when was the last time you washed the car? The sills look dreadfull!:clown:

it hasn't been anywhere since i last washed it, i only gave it a quick scrub, needs a good clean this week for french car show!

I noticed youve mounted the tweeters by your feet, any thoughts of moving them up? (sorry!!!)

I noticed youve mounted the tweeters by your feet, any thoughts of moving them up? (sorry!!!)

Depending on how they sound they could be best down there, i have had tweeters in the past and they have been really harsh

yes mate, they are helix blues, temporary until i get my precision's, they sound nice though, to be fair :)

thought so i have a set for sale, never used them so dont know what there like :lol:

Depending on how they sound they could be best down there, i have had tweeters in the past and they have been really harsh
I had too and then found by moving them closer to the listeners ear soundstaging and imaging was greatly improved. Just my opinion!

I had too and then found by moving them closer to the listeners ear soundstaging and imaging was greatly improved. Just my opinion!

Yeah maybe but surly moving them closer to the ear is going to make them harsher!

i played with tweeter position, with blue tack and long wire, they got a littl eharsh mounted ont he A pillars, the footwell was where they sounded best!
Barnie, they actually sound quite nice for a cheap set of comps, when i get them in and set up properly i may do a review!

Yeah maybe but surly moving them closer to the ear is going to make them harsher!

You dont literally sellotape the tweeters to your ears! No id agree with you slightly but all i do is tone down treble on my HU. Problem solved.

You dont literally sellotape the tweeters to your ears! No id agree with you slightly but all i do is tone down treble on my HU. Problem solved.
it's varies from car to car where tweets sound best imo, the 106 sounded best witht hem high up, this sound better low down :D

looking good hun!

looking good hun!
thank you, you'll hear it soon :D

You dont literally sellotape the tweeters to your ears! No id agree with you slightly but all i do is tone down treble on my HU. Problem solved.

i also prefer having my tweets higher as it raises the sound stage but ive found on some cars if you do turn the high down on yout h/u they can still sound harsh esp on alpine units, depends on what power you are providing them aswell

thank you, you'll hear it soon :D

hmmm cant wait!!:D hehe you make my install look and sound bad:p oh well!!