View Full Version : Dead quick tweeter builds. (Piccys)


Neeley
11-05-2006, 08:26 PM
These were so quick, cheap and easy to do.

On with the pics.......

First I cut the holes out to slightly sink the tweeter cups in.

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_01.jpg



Drilled loads of holes to make it easier. (As pointed out By Mulletboy2, using a soldering iron with a hot knife attachment would have been easier)

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_02.jpg



Returning the pillars to the car, I aimed the tweets then hot glued the cups in place. Hot glue guns are as cheap as a fiver from woolworths.

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_03.jpg



Stretched some old speaker grill cloth over the entire pillar. This is to get the contour of the build and the basis to apply the resin. Don't pull it too tight around the tweeter cup as it needs to have a nice long flow along the pillar.

The cloth is stapled at the back to hold in place. (As Pointed out by Mulletboy2, hot glue would probably been better, I found just stapling it worked ok.)

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_04.jpg

Cover the entire pillar, making sure the edges are pulled in tight.

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_014.jpg




No fancy fiberglassing gear, just a tin of resin and hardner from halfords. The spray glue is for applying the finishing material for the build.

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_013.jpg




Apply One coat of the resin to the whole build. When it's cured but still sticky, (approx 1 hour) give the build another coat. Another one after that wouldn't hurt either... I gave mine just the two, it was strong enough.

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_05.jpg




Once the glassings completed and the builds are fully cured, you need to sand the shiny glaze back, remove any slight bumps and trim the edges off. Also cut the hole for the tweeter.

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_06.jpg




Make sure it's all smooth and flowing nicely into the cup. I chose to remove the backs from the cups so I could mount some foam behind the tweeter. When the final covering goes on, it's a tight push fit.

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_07.jpg




Here's the covering material I used, It has a foam backing and sticks well with the sray glue.

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_012.jpg




Pic to show the trimming from the rear. The material doesn't need to be stretched over the build, but start form the center and work your way out. Spray glue the edges and wrap around it.

Make a X cut over the tweeter cup, fold and glue the material in. When previously sanding around the cup, allow for a tight push fit of the tweeter with the final covering in place.

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_011.jpg




Completed....

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_08.jpg




http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_09.jpg




http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_10.jpg

dark_sounds
11-05-2006, 08:28 PM
damn thats looks so nice and easy! i think this should be kept for reference!! brilliant job,

do you have any pics of the stapling at the back??

ChrisC
11-05-2006, 08:30 PM
Looks good chap! I'm going to have to get some spare A-Pillars for my Mondeo and do them properly, they look brilliant! Cant wait to see them on saturday

Mr Foom
11-05-2006, 08:32 PM
They look ace!

How solid do they feel after the resin's dried?

I'm looking at making some myself next week. :)

Tom_vRS
11-05-2006, 08:32 PM
God you make it look easy. Nice one. :)

Want to do some for me ;)

soahc
11-05-2006, 08:36 PM
You'll be stuffed if you didn't get the aiming right where you wanted it ;)

bass_junkie83
11-05-2006, 09:12 PM
You'll be stuffed if you didn't get the aiming right where you wanted it ;)
not really, if you did cóck up the aimi ng you can break them out and do them again its that easy. same way i did mine.
fabrication work like that is so rewarding, nice one :)

dark_sounds
11-05-2006, 09:17 PM
right so all u need is resin??? (where from ? name of??) and any old cloth??

Woosey
11-05-2006, 09:17 PM
what material did you use to cover them?

Good job :D

thanks

chris

soahc
11-05-2006, 09:23 PM
what material did you use to cover them?

Good job :D

thanks

chris


Stretched some old speaker cloth over the entire pillar. Stapled at the back.
http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_04.jpg



Two coats of resin over the whole lot.
http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/gallery/data/500/medium/tweet_05.jpg



There you go ;)

Alan W
11-05-2006, 09:28 PM
Those look great and very professional ! :)

Not a lot of laborious sanding either compared with the usual filled builds which can take forever. :shake:

Thanks for sharing and I'd agree they are definitely worthy of a FAQ or permanent posting.

Alan W

Steve.
11-05-2006, 09:29 PM
.. no they're trimmed afterwards


nice work neil :)

mulletboy2
11-05-2006, 09:29 PM
Excellent work mate :D

ChrisC
11-05-2006, 09:35 PM
and i've booked his assistance when i need it :D YAY FOR ME!

mini_basser
11-05-2006, 09:37 PM
Worthy of the FAQ, you think?

bass_junkie83
11-05-2006, 09:38 PM
tights also give a tight contour surface too

SwitchBlade
11-05-2006, 09:39 PM
FAQ it m_b. Nice work Neeley.

dark_sounds
11-05-2006, 09:44 PM
! i think this should be kept for reference!!


:lol: yes FAQ! :)

Neeley
11-05-2006, 09:50 PM
Soahc. The speaker cloth is only to get the shape, Halfords fibreglass resin was applied on top of it. Once it had cured but still tacky, another coat went on for strength.

The covering is a foam backed material, so it has a kind of spongy feel to it. Stuck on with spray glue. No stretching, just whack it on and trim the back. Took about 45 mins to cover and trim them.

£4.50 for the resin
£1.49 for the hardner
£1.00 for a few brushes (pound shop) :D
£5.00 for the spray glue (used 1/4 of it.
£8.00 for the material. local car shop.

Pete.
11-05-2006, 09:54 PM
FAQ it big man, you know you want too! :D good work too, the tweets look great in that material!

MrP
11-05-2006, 09:57 PM
shame you in london neeley, i might need some more "A" pillers making soon"

krismusic
11-05-2006, 10:00 PM
Wow!:wow: You didn't hang about, in your usual fashion:p They look really good Neil.

Matt
11-05-2006, 10:07 PM
right up my street - love it :)

lozzy
11-05-2006, 10:34 PM
they are awesum top work!!

Skeelsie
11-05-2006, 11:27 PM
Looks good, you know your stuff.

Orca
11-05-2006, 11:35 PM
About time too! :D

Good work Neil. ;)

soahc
12-05-2006, 12:05 AM
Soahc. The speaker cloth is only to get the shape, Halfords fibreglass resin was applied on top of it. Once it had cured but still tacky, another coat went on for strength.


Rereading my post, I think I may have got hold of the wrong end of the stick in regards to Woosey's question. I think he meant the finishing covering and not the material used to take the resin. Oops :clown:

And yes, FAQ it :smokin:

mulletboy2
12-05-2006, 06:50 AM
Not to detract from the work at all, but one thing which would have made it even faster - a soldering iron with a hot knife attachment would have made light work of cutting the holes for the tweeter cups :)

And yes, definitely worthy of a FAQ. It's a nice twist on the regular approach of mounting cup and filler, and doesn't require shaping whilst sanding. Excellent approach!

Harryredchow
12-05-2006, 07:15 AM
Or even a cheap hole saw kit from eBay would have done the job. These are great for mounting tweeters flush in their cuts as the holes are spot on.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hole-Saw-Kit-12-piece-19-64mm-circle-cutter-New-Tools_W0QQitemZ4461160361QQcategoryZ20768QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

H.

cswice
12-05-2006, 07:21 AM
top effort ;)

Nawty
12-05-2006, 07:34 AM
Threads like this depress me as I know I should do something like this, I may have to buy some FG stuff later...

Top work Neil :D

Amit
12-05-2006, 07:53 AM
Excellent job!

how did you staple the cloth to the back a) without the staples coming through, and b) without distroying the plastic?

I have used this method for kick builds onto oem panels many times.. but normaly super glue the material in place.

Dont use tights for this.. they go give a nice contour.. but are too thin to hold a decent amount of resin for strength. If you use tights, you will have to add chopped matt or tissue.

Amit

bass_junkie83
12-05-2006, 07:59 AM
i have used tights to do exactly the same job on my wing mirror trims to house my tweeters. used 4 coats of resing but i can assure you its strong enough. of course if using it to hold mids etc then matting will need to be added after, but it does give a great surface to start with.

EDIT: i did use an old pair of my thick winter tights doubled up :love:

McC
12-05-2006, 08:14 AM
Cool! Nice one mate. Are they the dyns? How do they sound?

AaronM
12-05-2006, 08:37 AM
Very nice, how do you know where to place them though with regarding to aiming?

Is there an FAQ on tweeter aiming?

Dean A
12-05-2006, 08:42 AM
Impressive!

Going to doing the same this weekend with my MD100's ... fun, fun, fun!

SwitchBlade
12-05-2006, 11:23 AM
Very nice, how do you know where to place them though with regarding to aiming?


Aim, listen, aim, listen, aim, listen, rinse and repeat ad infinitum.

ChrisC
12-05-2006, 11:31 AM
Hayden, i think what he is meaning is how did he keep them in the place he wanted after he aimed it. Also, not knowing much about aiming wouldnt having one tweeter aimed and the other not aimed completely fook it up so it'd take forever to get right?

Voice_Coil
12-05-2006, 11:35 AM
is this in a 3 way set up ? if so where you having the mids or are they done already ?
a top job ! , i think id be willing to have a go at that, just not too hot on custom stuff.....

Neeley
12-05-2006, 12:13 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys.

I'll add a few more pics later and edit the post to explain some of the finer details. Basically I wanted to show if an idiot like me could do it, anyone can, and to encourage people to have a go with glassing.

Amit. The material was wrapped around the back of the pillars and trimmed off 1cm in. I just roughed up the plastic and used spray glue as normal. (I'll show a pic of that later)

mulletboy2
12-05-2006, 12:42 PM
Hot glue's pretty good for holding stuff in place before 'glassing.. you can stretch the material, glue it in place, then if you move on and find something's wrong later, just heat the glue up using a heat gun and reposition it :) 'Course, once you've glassed the front, you should be able to remove the rear by heating the glue to release the un-resin'd material. Cut the material once it's loose, and by the time you've done that, the hot glue will be hard again, so can be rolled/peeled off (if you can be bothered).

tej
12-05-2006, 12:49 PM
very nice :) i would love to try the same, but my a pillars would look weird trimmed in furry stuff!

Amit
12-05-2006, 02:59 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys.

Amit. The material was wrapped around the back of the pillars and trimmed off 1cm in. I just roughed up the plastic and used spray glue as normal. (I'll show a pic of that later)

ah ok that makes sense.. just you said "stapled" in your first post.

Amit

Dean A
13-05-2006, 09:58 AM
Did you cut the back out of the tweeter cups then Neeley? If so, how did you hold the tweeters in?

It's quite a snug fit in the cups anyway, so I assume it doesn't take much to hold them in...

dark_sounds
13-05-2006, 10:06 AM
im definitly going to give this a go when i get all my act together, just need to think what goes well with a leather interior... leather pillar trims? suade? maybe clash with leather.

anyway thats my problem! again fantastic stuff, i reallly cant wait to do it!!

pg_maniac
13-05-2006, 10:10 AM
very nice! im def going to use your idea neely, its genious

dark_sounds
14-05-2006, 11:16 AM
fantastic neeley, very well played!

Neeley
14-05-2006, 11:52 AM
cheers. :)

FAQ'd, edited with better descriptions and more pics added.