View Full Version : How Much Does It Cost The Government To Put One Man In Jail
Voice_Coil 19-03-2006, 08:52 PM Im curious , how much would it cost to keep a man in jail for say a week ?
ive heard people say things like 300 aweek or whatever , but how much is it REALLY ?
does anyone know ?
Kineticz 19-03-2006, 08:58 PM Well how much did you get paid, what, 200 just to pass the soap for a week? :lol: ;)
Breezer 19-03-2006, 09:02 PM The Conservative party figure for average inmate cost is £22,000 per annum.
its a f*ck of a lot
heard an interview with jeffrey archer when he came out.
He also talked about how you come off the weed inside and start on crack & heroine i think it was because you can flush them out in 24 hours whereas weed stays in the blood for a good month
Barrie@Ardent 19-03-2006, 09:08 PM The Conservative party figure for average inmate cost is £22,000 per annum.
yep i heard 24k a year wand i was shocked to
Voice_Coil 19-03-2006, 09:48 PM if thats true ^^^^^
500 a week is just crazy:wow:
EF MAX 19-03-2006, 09:54 PM In 1990, a drink driver serving 6 months in a CAT D prison would cost the state around £10,000 per 6 months. This also include his probation and immediate 6 week after care. I would hate to think what it cost now.
It is worth noting that over 50% of our jails are full of law breakers from outside the UK who will get deported at the end of their sentance. Personally I would deport them at the start of their law breaking and save the money as PRISON is NOT and NEVER EVER will be a deterrant to either British or non European law breakers.
It is also worth noting that in 1990, the daily food allowance for prisoners in the UK was 63pence per day.. think back to Jamie Olivers hard work with school dinners and you start to realise that 63 per day is not healthy, even for law breakers.
ChrisC 19-03-2006, 10:24 PM Crikey, it was saying that there were over 80'000 in jail at the moment, and if it costs £25'000 a year for them to be in there thats
£2'000'000'000 a year! fooooook!
Kineticz 19-03-2006, 10:35 PM 2 billion pound a year :shock:
ChrisC 19-03-2006, 10:44 PM and thats just for an ordinary prison, imagine all the higher security prisons and stuff!
Breezer 19-03-2006, 11:23 PM I thought 24k is the average?
I've got plenty of ways of making prison cheaper...
Wicked666 19-03-2006, 11:26 PM I thought it was around £33k a year (according to my lecturer). Tis a lot which is why alternative methods of punishment are trying to be used to make it ultimately more beneficial to society.
timreeves 19-03-2006, 11:38 PM this has just made me think of chris morris.
"Why don't we give these criminals a lump sum of £20'000 and ask them to go and do something productive with that money, and if still nothing arises after a year then perhaps we could pay them some more?"
easytease 20-03-2006, 07:36 AM whatever it is, its too ****ing much. the ***** get it better then butlins customers :(
Paul.S 20-03-2006, 10:08 AM Bring back the death sentence,
People like Huntley, Stone, Whiting, Venables, Thomson etc should be dead by now...
apparently one of the bulger killers (the "evil" one apparently, the chubby f*cker) lives quite close to us, which is a **** take as its WAY to close to Liverpool.
Barrie@Ardent 20-03-2006, 10:13 AM it would work out cheaper to put them up in the hilton with 3 meals a day
Luv Bass 20-03-2006, 12:10 PM Should bring our boys back from iraq and send all these ***** in jail over.
Breezer 20-03-2006, 12:19 PM Should bring our boys back from iraq and send all these ***** in jail over.
Yea, because that would help our image with the Iraqi people... :shake:
What we should do is make jail a hell hole: if they want to riot, let them, just don't bother cleaning up after them.
If they want to commit suicide: let them.
If they want to fight, let them.
It's pretty simple.
WhoJar 20-03-2006, 12:33 PM What he said.
Prison isn't a punishment its more like a holiday camp :mad: :shake:
Have you seen thr equipment they have :mad: more than what ive got at home :shake:
Blade 20-03-2006, 12:34 PM Shocking figures...
I agree that prison should be made less hospitable... Let them learn skills they can use to rehabilitate oince back on the outside, but its not 'sposed to be comfortable... TVs in the rooms etc :shake:
Bring back forced labour for them; In the USA they get prisoners stitching mailbags/pressing licence plates... Labour like this could help balance out these massive figurtes quoted for keeping them in jail...
EddyP 20-03-2006, 12:56 PM Yea, because that would help our image with the Iraqi people... :shake:
sorry but why do you even care what our image with iraqi people is like?
theres no need for british soldiers to be out there, tony twatty blair should sort this country out before he tried to go and fcuk someone elses up.
Maybe he could put the money from looking after people in another country towards looking after people such as those that featured an panorma the other week, about OAPs that get forced to sell their homes to pay their nursing bills.
Benny 20-03-2006, 01:07 PM Why not round up all of our prisoners, and send them to a country with a better climate than us, better beaches than us, more land than us....and in a hundred years, we can all see what a good job they made of the place, want to move there, and get consistently whipped by them at almost every sport known to man?
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Paul.S 20-03-2006, 01:23 PM Why not round up all of our prisoners, and send them to a country with a better climate than us, better beaches than us, more land than us....and in a hundred years, we can all see what a good job they made of the place, want to move there, and get consistently whipped by them at almost every sport known to man?
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You forgot they gave us neighbours :D
Luv Bass 20-03-2006, 01:57 PM sorry but why do you even care what our image with iraqi people is like?
theres no need for british soldiers to be out there, tony twatty blair should sort this country out before he tried to go and fcuk someone elses up.
Maybe he could put the money from looking after people in another country towards looking after people such as those that featured an panorma the other week, about OAPs that get forced to sell their homes to pay their nursing bills.
I agree. Gordon Brown for PM:lol:
luke667 20-03-2006, 02:03 PM How about u get prisoners to do the following:
- murderers and child rapists are used for testing of drugs and cosmetics
- others are used for community work such as building/painting council houses, picking up litter, building stuff to be used in government housing/schools...actually giving back to society instead of sitting in jail waiting for their time to pass and get back out.
Luv Bass 20-03-2006, 02:22 PM Crash Test Dummies,:clown: Then sell the videos of the tests, which will make the DVLA alot of money, therefore reducing Road Tax ( can only dream :D )
Breezer 20-03-2006, 04:24 PM sorry but why do you even care what our image with iraqi people is like?
theres no need for british soldiers to be out there, tony twatty blair should sort this country out before he tried to go and fcuk someone elses up.
Maybe he could put the money from looking after people in another country towards looking after people such as those that featured an panorma the other week, about OAPs that get forced to sell their homes to pay their nursing bills.
Urm, our image out there is pretty important, because it's directly linked to the amount of suicide attacks we're likely to face.
Tony Blair WAS looking after our interests by invading Iraq because our economy needs long term oil to survive, and Suddam was not stable enough to be able to promise that.
EF MAX 20-03-2006, 07:16 PM I agree that prison should be made less hospitable... Let them learn skills they can use to rehabilitate once back on the outside, but its not 'sposed to be comfortable... TVs in the rooms etc OKAY, lets get a few things straight,, and this applies to UK prisons for adults and young offenders..
There are no prisons that I know that are holiday camps,, not even the Cat D prisons. Prison doesn’t work because you have law breakers and criminals all mixed up together..
The average criminal sees prison as no more than an occupational hazard therefore it serves no useful deterrent. The average foolish law breaker does not need prison to make them aware of their stupidity therefore it is too late for prison to act as a deterrent.
No matter how you feel about those who do wrong, PRISON HAS AND NEVER EVER WILL WORK, because its whole concept is based on revenge not rehabilitation.. Yes we need to take out of society people who rob, mug, rape etc but our prisons are not full of these type of people and until you yourself get sent there or have a member of your family sent there, most of us have no clues as to what really goes on in the average prison..
Television does not show a true portrayal of reality.. the get cr@p food which is often past its sell by date, TV usage is via a rental system that they have to work for and as for work, well the Royal Mail and Virgin Airlines are already getting an amazingly cheap source of labour already..
Also try to imagine what it is really like to be locked up for around 23 hours a day, also think how dangerous this must be for the people who have to look after them.. I could go on but the point I am trying to get across is there are so many small things that you or I can end up in jail for, even just for seven days..
The system needs to talk to real professionals like myself who have both been sent to prison and worked within the youth offending system,, so I have seen both sides of the fence and have stories that would have you skin walking off your body with shame and disgust..
If you separate the law breakers from the criminals and match punishment to crimes, then many people would actually find my choice of punishments are harsh, very, very harsh but psychologically effective and have the benefit of being a lot cheaper.
We would also need to separate the non European law breakers from the rest and not waste tax payers money on keeping them here.. We should also not forget, that in my experience that some of the biggest law breakers are the police, those in the judicial system, prison officers and some of the senior staff.. for example – guy comes through custom with a kilo of drugs.. gets caught and prosecuted.. He knows that in court his punishment is going to be linked to the amount he was carrying,, so when the charge says half a kilo,, is he going to complain,, NO.. But what happened to the other half a kilo,, you go figure..
If I wanted the best drugs, I don’t find a local dealer,, I find someone working on vice or in the system who has confiscated some gear, recorded it but mixed the good stuff with baking powder or washing powder before it is put into storage,, while keeping the half that is still good for their own devices,, again, you go figure and this is not ******** this is reality..
Detain the criminals,, and work properly on sorting out their lives and attitude but just locking them up doesn’t work, never has, never will.
If this government want to make a start in reducing its crime stats,, it needs to get out of parliament and get down onto the street.. By today’s standards, most crime these days is either drink or drugs related,, yet alcohol is legal and weed has been down graded.. We allow big corporations to make millions yet they pay the people who help them to make those millions a poxy minimum wage or just over.. how the heck is society suppose to survive on so little without then looking at cretative ways of making ends meet..
I know each member of society has choices and that they should be more careful with those choices but given that our society today is more illiterate than those from the past,, we will sadly be having idiots breeding idiots and the pot keeps boiling.. because the difference between your wrong doing and the next guy, is whether you get caught or not.. all this anger and all from a question about money,, whinge over..
Mr Foom 20-03-2006, 08:08 PM ^
Absolutely spot-on. :)
RobDogg 20-03-2006, 08:11 PM I think if someone has done something for which they will never be let out (huntley etc) they should be shot. bullets are pretty cheap!
Wicked666 20-03-2006, 08:12 PM I think if someone has done something for which they will never be let out (huntley etc) they should be shot. bullets are pretty cheap!
but to some that'll be the easy way out & wouldn't stop the crime happening.
mulletboy2 20-03-2006, 08:34 PM Sorry Erskine, much of what you say is very true, but a few of your key points are way off ;)
There are many many people without morals, or who simply have different values to the government - what stops most of them committing crimes? Fear of prison. Prison is a great deterrant to many.. you're basing your argument purely on those who commit crimes which land, or may land them in prison, not the countless *potential* criminals who don't actually do it.
Granted, it could be made more of a deterrant.. but that isn't at question here.
As for prison not working.. there are 2 purposes of imprisonment, one is revenge/retribution and one is rehabilitation.. therefore it does work, atleast partially. The friends/families/parties offended atleast get *some* appeasement. Revenge very much has a place in the legal system.
There was one other, but I've forgotten it... so I'll let you off ;)
Cheers
Mark
EF MAX 20-03-2006, 09:24 PM Sorry Erskine, much of what you say is very true, but a few of your key points are way off ;)
There are many many people without morals, or who simply have different values to the government - what stops most of them committing crimes? Fear of prison. Prison is a great deterrant to many..
MarkHear what your saying,, those wannbe bad boys though are not scared enough unfortunately.. the rest of the gang are not really bad guys they just get caught up s#it they ought not too,, but I do hear what your saying mate..
stu0x 20-03-2006, 09:53 PM Alternatively, how much does it cost *not* to put one man in jail?
Breezer 20-03-2006, 09:56 PM Erskine - Sorry, but society as a whole is way more literate than it's ever been. There is no arguing about that.
Other than that, that was an intersting, if slightly verbose post.
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