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#1 Bamse

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Posted 05 Sep 2012 - 15:43

Well, I say boot and door build but am starting with the boot and seeing how that goes. Plan is once my sub box is done I will put my new Type-R 12 in it to replace my GT4. I then plan on building my false floor around the sub enclosure. This will have a compartment for my amps, dizzy box, amp/volt meter display and possibly an active crossover.Plus looking into some PC fans for air extraction. To the lid for that I will fit a gas strut to as well. For the front doors, I plan on fitting my tweeters to the original sail panels cuttings them out, for now at least. The 16.5 comps I have fitted to the OEM plastic mounts, though I plan on making new ones out of mdf or if I feel brave, steel. Just bought a load of Silent Coat 4mm sound deadening today for inner outer front door skins, outer rear door skins and hopefully the boot floor and tailgate.

So much to do and so many hands on my time. Any encouragement / advice will be very much appreciated especially as I have only been into this for about 6 months but after attending Trax, I have most certainly got the bug :cheese:

Cheers

Bamse

PS, Pictures to follow shortly!
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Amps Genesis Profile Sub, Genesis P4 Ultra, Genesis P4
Sub - Type-R 12
Speaker - Type-R SPR-17S, P6560c
TB4 O gauge
3 tons of 4mm Silent Coat, 35mm SC Absorber, Dynamat Extreme
My Pug Build

#2 Ian@BeastBoxes

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Posted 05 Sep 2012 - 17:24

Bamse... no piccy no likey!! get stuck in mate!!!

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Posted 05 Sep 2012 - 18:06

Good luck but if there's no pictures you're gonna get an angry crowd.

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Plans: a little more dynamatting for boot, then all installed properly. Somehow get Utopia No.7 into doors and wire up the crossover.


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Posted 05 Sep 2012 - 19:28

hehehe...

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Posted 05 Sep 2012 - 19:36

Hope your build is quicker than your pic's :clown: :raz: :raz:

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Posted 05 Sep 2012 - 19:37

Not wanting to upset the masses, here are some pictures.

Here is what Im working with:
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First enclosure I have made on my own:
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First attempt free hand, bit of sanding needed me thinks:
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Enclosure carpeted. Not entirely happy but not bad for a first attempt and made it with free off cuts. Enclosure at the moment is sealed, 400mm square and had 1.7 cubic feet after sub displacement.

Heres what it looks like in the boot (i know, too big) :blush:
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Amps Genesis Profile Sub, Genesis P4 Ultra, Genesis P4
Sub - Type-R 12
Speaker - Type-R SPR-17S, P6560c
TB4 O gauge
3 tons of 4mm Silent Coat, 35mm SC Absorber, Dynamat Extreme
My Pug Build

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Posted 05 Sep 2012 - 23:07

ported is the way forward :) not a bad box being it 1st time. try building a ported box. the jbl will impress you even more, and surely the type R will sound immense too. iv heard it before sealed and ported. both subs sounds great sealed, but ported its crazy! :cool:

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Posted 05 Sep 2012 - 23:40

Good work so far. Looking forward to see how this progresses.

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Plans: a little more dynamatting for boot, then all installed properly. Somehow get Utopia No.7 into doors and wire up the crossover.


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Posted 06 Sep 2012 - 12:53

Not sure if you know or been told yet but the 6x9 firing in to the boot like that with a sub will most likely not work to there best potential due to the air pressure created from the sub on the rear of the cones and you could end up with cancellation issues too. IMHO I would add an enclosure to the rear of the 6x9 or disconnect them.


My bad just noticed the last pic no 6x9 doh it's gonna be one of those days

Edited by MARTYCABBIE, 06 Sep 2012 - 12:58.

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Posted 06 Sep 2012 - 20:17

ported is the way forward :) not a bad box being it 1st time. try building a ported box. the jbl will impress you even more, and surely the type R will sound immense too. iv heard it before sealed and ported. both subs sounds great sealed, but ported its crazy! :cool:


Am thinking of going slotted for my next box, this should suit the Type-R nicely. Just not sure what frequency to build it to as I like so many types of boxes.

Good work so far. Looking forward to see how this progresses.

Thank you MikeFish, I am doing my best (which isn't always that good) :blush:

Not sure if you know or been told yet but the 6x9 firing in to the boot like that with a sub will most likely not work to there best potential due to the air pressure created from the sub on the rear of the cones and you could end up with cancellation issues too. IMHO I would add an enclosure to the rear of the 6x9 or disconnect them.


My bad just noticed the last pic no 6x9 doh it's gonna be one of those days


They are still there. I have them connected to the HU but have them faded out. I only still have them as there would be 2 big holes in my parcel shelf without them. In my unenlightened day all that time ago (about 6 months) I thought the car system would not sound any good without 6x9's in the rear) :blush: You live and learn.

As a side point, I have never seen a 6x9 enclosure fitted to speaker shelf's, have you got any examples?
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Amps Genesis Profile Sub, Genesis P4 Ultra, Genesis P4
Sub - Type-R 12
Speaker - Type-R SPR-17S, P6560c
TB4 O gauge
3 tons of 4mm Silent Coat, 35mm SC Absorber, Dynamat Extreme
My Pug Build

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Posted 06 Sep 2012 - 20:23

No work on the build today but have received some new toys:


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Now just to find the time to fit them
HU Sony MEX-BT3700U
Amps Genesis Profile Sub, Genesis P4 Ultra, Genesis P4
Sub - Type-R 12
Speaker - Type-R SPR-17S, P6560c
TB4 O gauge
3 tons of 4mm Silent Coat, 35mm SC Absorber, Dynamat Extreme
My Pug Build

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Posted 06 Sep 2012 - 21:53

good progress mate,ive just finished my first tidy box and am attempting my first bootbuild.loving the amps though.
headunit- pioneer deh-p77mp
front amp- vibe bb2
speakers- infinity 6510 components
sub amp- mtx3002 amp
subwoofer- jbl gt4-12
silent coat
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Posted 07 Sep 2012 - 08:29

good progress mate,ive just finished my first tidy box and am attempting my first bootbuild.loving the amps though.


Cheers m8, have you got a build thread?
HU Sony MEX-BT3700U
Amps Genesis Profile Sub, Genesis P4 Ultra, Genesis P4
Sub - Type-R 12
Speaker - Type-R SPR-17S, P6560c
TB4 O gauge
3 tons of 4mm Silent Coat, 35mm SC Absorber, Dynamat Extreme
My Pug Build

#14 marcgj

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Posted 07 Sep 2012 - 08:56

not yet mate,ive nearly finished to be honest but i will put some pics up,its very budget though,although i will slowly be upgrading along the way.
headunit- pioneer deh-p77mp
front amp- vibe bb2
speakers- infinity 6510 components
sub amp- mtx3002 amp
subwoofer- jbl gt4-12
silent coat
4awg

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Posted 07 Sep 2012 - 09:12

Looking forward to see it. What have you done so far?
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Amps Genesis Profile Sub, Genesis P4 Ultra, Genesis P4
Sub - Type-R 12
Speaker - Type-R SPR-17S, P6560c
TB4 O gauge
3 tons of 4mm Silent Coat, 35mm SC Absorber, Dynamat Extreme
My Pug Build

#16 marcgj

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Posted 07 Sep 2012 - 10:01

i'll do a thread when i get home later mate,although its not a sq system nor spl lol,they should have a budget systems section lol.
headunit- pioneer deh-p77mp
front amp- vibe bb2
speakers- infinity 6510 components
sub amp- mtx3002 amp
subwoofer- jbl gt4-12
silent coat
4awg

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Posted 07 Sep 2012 - 10:10

I know what you mean, mine didn't fit in either of those which is why I put it here. ;-)
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Amps Genesis Profile Sub, Genesis P4 Ultra, Genesis P4
Sub - Type-R 12
Speaker - Type-R SPR-17S, P6560c
TB4 O gauge
3 tons of 4mm Silent Coat, 35mm SC Absorber, Dynamat Extreme
My Pug Build

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Posted 07 Sep 2012 - 14:51

Looks like a good start and the equipment list is improving nicely B)
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Posted 07 Sep 2012 - 17:11

If I wanted to port the enclosure above (seeing as this is the first box I have made on my own) how would I go about it? Should I do it and is that enclosure suitable for porting? (was thinking round port).
Thanks

Looks like a good start and the equipment list is improving nicely :cool:


Thanks for the encouragement mate
HU Sony MEX-BT3700U
Amps Genesis Profile Sub, Genesis P4 Ultra, Genesis P4
Sub - Type-R 12
Speaker - Type-R SPR-17S, P6560c
TB4 O gauge
3 tons of 4mm Silent Coat, 35mm SC Absorber, Dynamat Extreme
My Pug Build

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Posted 07 Sep 2012 - 18:15

a ported enclosure is normally twice as big as a sealed.

mines 2.1cuft after displacements.
headunit- pioneer deh-p77mp
front amp- vibe bb2
speakers- infinity 6510 components
sub amp- mtx3002 amp
subwoofer- jbl gt4-12
silent coat
4awg