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#1 Olly H

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Posted 05 Sep 2005 - 09:23

I've lost my locking wheel nut key.
Well more accurately, I think the place that last did my tyres lost my locking wheel nut key. I've always kept it in the glove box.

They are not originals but were on the car when I bought it 2nd hand and I have no serial number or reference for them.

I've tried phoning tyre/exhaust centres, but 9 out of 10 say it's impossible, which I don't believe. One actually had a go with some weird looking sockets, but he failed.

I thought this would be a fairly common problem, surely it can't be that rare?

Anybody have any suggestions? I thought about either jamming on a socket or maybe welding something to the bolt?

I'm gonna try a normal garage now and see if they can do any better.

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Posted 05 Sep 2005 - 09:25

Most places I know of have a widget for removing locking wheel nuts without the key :confused: I'd have thought it was a routine thing...
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Posted 05 Sep 2005 - 09:32

Most wheel/tyre places carry nut removal kits, kind of like an oversize "easyout".

Even garages have them.

When I bought my current car, the previous owner had lost they key, so I knocked him down on prices and drove away.

Got home, got out the lump hammer and some impact sockets, found one that hammered on nicely and wound them out.

Any decent garage can do this.
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Posted 05 Sep 2005 - 19:25

Snap-on do a nice tool - Like a bolt with a mean looking thread on it. Used to remove my alloy locking nuts when muppet here misplaced the key....
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Posted 05 Sep 2005 - 21:44

you can get lh thread thingys.

most similar sized locking keys fit with a hammer.

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Posted 06 Sep 2005 - 02:54

Soo whats the point in locking wheel nuts lol

Seems quite easy to remove them without the key hehe

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Posted 06 Sep 2005 - 12:35

Soo whats the point in locking wheel nuts lol

Seems quite easy to remove them without the key hehe


but if you're outside someones house in the middle of the night trying to steal their wheels, would you bother hammering sockets on with a lump hammer?

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Posted 06 Sep 2005 - 12:39

drill it out!!!

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Posted 06 Sep 2005 - 12:51

A 6 sided socket (12mm to get the ones on mine off),1 heavy club hammer and a bit of luck should get any locking nut off i had to do this because some doughnut did my locking nuts up with an air rachet and nackerd the locating pins on the socket

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Posted 06 Sep 2005 - 19:39

but if you're outside someones house in the middle of the night trying to steal their wheels, would you bother hammering sockets on with a lump hammer?


Exactly - not a quiet job to remove them! Involved a lot of hammering which forces the threaded part of the tool down on to the locking nut (mashing it up nicely too :clown: ) and then you need to just use standard wrench to undo it.

Not sure how the nut is then unthreaded from the removal tool though? I didn't witness that bit of it....
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Posted 06 Sep 2005 - 19:47

Snap-on do a nice tool - Like a bolt with a mean looking thread on it. Used to remove my alloy locking nuts when muppet here misplaced the key....


Not as basic as that, i've got the set for removing locking wheel nuts and it comes in a box with about 6 different sockets, depending on which type it is.

Works very well too. :raz:
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Posted 06 Sep 2005 - 20:00

Not as basic as that, i've got the set for removing locking wheel nuts and it comes in a box with about 6 different sockets, depending on which type it is.

Works very well too. :raz:


One thing I do remember is the tool was about 1mm in diameter less than the diameter of the bolt hole. Decided to wrap it in sellotape before use to protect the alloy.

He only had the one tool though - Why would you need diferent ones for different types? Or does "type" just refer to different bolt hole sizes/bolt sizes. I was just lucky in that case he had one that DID fit. :wow:
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Posted 06 Sep 2005 - 20:06

One thing I do remember is the tool was about 1mm in diameter less than the diameter of the bolt hole. Decided to wrap it in sellotape before use to protect the alloy.

He only had the one tool though - Why would you need diferent ones for different types? Or does "type" just refer to different bolt hole sizes/bolt sizes. I was just lucky in that case he had one that DID fit. :wow:


There are hundreds, if not thousands of different type locking wheel nuts, some have the key in the middle with spinning outers, some don't.

The set i've got also comes with various sized sockets that fit inside the grooves of the key with the spinning outers and like said before also has left hand internal threaded sockets for other types.
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Posted 07 Sep 2005 - 00:13

Got home, got out the lump hammer and some impact sockets, found one that hammered on nicely and wound them out.


Worked for me too
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Posted 11 Jul 2009 - 15:58

as you did either bash a socket over, but if like me yours are inny ones not outty ones you will have to get something like this

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Posted 11 Jul 2009 - 16:03

as you did either bash a socket over, but if like me yours are inny ones not outty ones you will have to get something like this

http://www.motorserv...nNlY3Rpb25pZD04


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Posted 11 Jul 2009 - 16:05

For the love of God, will you let this thread die! :lol: